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First of all, BOSSR is and has always been incompatible with K1CP. Btw @SAO1138 I just read the description and you'll want to delete BOSSR from your recommendations or at least warn users about this. This particular mod has been designed to work with the vanilla game and that's it. Although I didnt try myself so no idea if it only brings small issues or game breaking bugs but I've seen testimonies of people who couldn't even complete the game with both installed. And that's not even talking about Sleheyron which brings a lot of new placeables. Even with K1R it breaks some placeables. BOSSR should be a mod played once, and if it were me I'd just advise to play from the savegame the author gave. And Sleheyron would've been the same if I didnt insist to Sao that we should make it compatibility friendly with an installer such as Holopatcher. Second, Sleheyron first brings many issues such as the ones you described but also others, like some of K1CP improvements not being taken into account, or even overriden by Sleheyron. Third, a compatibility patch is NOT needed if we do things right. And as Ndrew said very clearly, people are stupid so might as well do things smartly and in the simplest way possible for end users. Hm that's not what Sao told me. It's mostly because we didnt yet fix an issue with the Patcher regarding the 2DAMemories for the placeables.
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Haha I'm not mad dw, we know each other pretty well now. You dont need to play the intermediary. Yeah you're right in that it's a big mod, so compatibility was a 2d objective, etc etc. Hm I'm pretty sure it's just from that new update, and that's fortunate coz let's be honest way more people would've had that issue lol. Yeah, yeah, I know... I'm just too stubborn and optimistic so I assume people are smart. Ik, nor was my explanation. Just asked him what he did so he could fix his own situation himself, but ig you already did that. HAHA I hope not coz dang
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I don't want to sound rude or anything but people need to be a bit more autonomous when modding. When I started installing mods, not even making them, I spent hours downloading manually and thinking about the install order, organising everything for my custom installations. And I'm not even talking about mods like BOSSR for which we literally need to create a folder to make it work. So yeah, people read the mod page ? Sure but if we have something called a ReadMe, READ IT ! To answer your question about how I wrote it, it was indeed in the info.rtf file (WHICH PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO READ AS WELL, OR WE WOULDNT WRITE ANYTHING ON IT) as well as the ReadMe itself, but Sao changed it apparently for some reason. Regarding how I communicated with Sao himself, we talked about it several times on Discord. We've been planning the install order to be K1CP, RC-K1CP, Sleheyron. Of course installing Sleheyron first is stupid and I never would've advised that, DUH. Ik what I'm doing. That being said, ig installing Sleheyron before RC-K1CP would be fine but for the sake of simplicity I prefer the other way around. Edit : actually, I think you're right, RC-K1CP last is better because from what Sao told me, we didn't do the 2DAMemories for the placeables in the ini file. Although I was almost sure we did. Does RC-K1CP add any placeables in the 2DA ? If not, then I'm pretty sure the install order between these 2 doesn't matter. It's just that Sao forgot that K1CP wasn't included in RC-K1CP, somehow.
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@SAO1138 I LITERALLY WROTE THE INSTALL ORDER BLACK ON WHITE EVERYWHERE IN HOLOPATCHER WHEN I SENT IT TO YOU ! Grrrrrrrr @JasonRyder Did you follow HoloPatcher's instructions and the ReadMe ? They are usually the most accurate and up to date documents you need to follow when installing mods. If Sao didn't change it, the precise install order should've been explicitly written before you clicked Install.
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You really should update your installation method and instructions coz installing this mod is annoying to figure out for me so I cant even imagine for non modders. Edit : I'm hardstuck in Nadd's tomb after choosing to be a Jedi. Can't leave the place even when reloading or even in compatibility mode. I checked the dialogue/scripts and everything seemed fine though 😕 Anyway pretty sad, impressive mod whatsoever.
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Bastila getting her battle meditation from Nomi would indeed make sense ! This one is a great idea imo. The "doomed hero" though, after having reviewed Nomi's full story on Wookiepedia, doesnt really seem to fit her, although Sao, who's read the comics, would probably give an even more useful insight.
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I think you misunderstand the dialogue, although it was indeed kind of clumsy. Right after the line you quoted, she called Yuthura her friend. Cant get clearer than that Regarding Nomi, I think Revan related wouldnt really make sense, because that would mean he infiltrated Coruscant after having become a Sith ? Or before ? But if it's before, when ? Because he only turns to the Dark Side after his encounter with Vitiate so it would make no sense for him to try to assassinate Nomi before. But if it's after, how to explain he succeeded in going to Coruscant ? Or Nomi would go off planet ? There's some of my ideas from my conversation with Sao : this war and her 2 lovers' deaths, especially that 2d one (Qel Droma), could be why she's very sad AND why she would potentially cut herself from the Force and go back to her first belief that she didnt want to be a Jedi at first, letting that to her daughter (Vima, who, contrary to her mother, genuinely wanted to be a Jedi) and focusing on rebuilding the Republic a little like Leia in the Thrawn legends trilogy
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Yeah that would be the context of me wondering "just why" lol. Like, why take time to do all that when it's already done and you could be doing more useful stuff for the community ? Like participating in expansion projects or doing things that actually bring something new ? Anyway, people do what they want but I believe it's a waste of time.
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@Kätzchen Regarding Nomi's issue, that is indeed quite interesting, not only for @SAO1138's mod but also for my expansion, which will feature Nomi herself. What do you think would be the best in that case ? you mentioned several examples but I'd be interested in your take on it. For Yuthura though, I don't remember that Aratech worker girl being sexually related in any way to Yuthura ? Is she not just a friend of hers ? Anyway, still interesting, maybe the twilek girl could be afraid of Yuthura after she becomes a Sith so she believes it's better if they dont meet again.
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