Attention needed! Major bug found! Please Fix The Lightsaber Brightness Glitch.

[JacoJam321]

Lightsaber Bug Fix/Mod Request:

Something I noticed about certain lightsaber Hilt models. They have brightness issues when viewed from behind and to the sides of their textures. They look distorted. Look fine when viewed at the front. Blade textures actually have minor fault with the issue though. The glitch is primarily caused within the hilt models themselves. There is a video here from Marius Fett. Is this what your using to change them?  

https://deadlystream.com/topic/9730-exporting-a-lightsaber-hilt-for-kotor-or-tsl/

- Notice how @DarthParametric fixed the glitch? 

- https://deadlystream.com/topic/6882-please-drop-any-lightsaber-hilt-mods-you-have-created-here/page/2/ 

- Take a look at: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/299-vps-hi-poly-tin-cans-kotor-1/

- Notice how the glitch has been covered all throughout the hilt models? Why? This is avoidable. Would they not look better with fixed models? If someone can fix those, send them to my mail box. Greatly appreciated.

Now take a look here: https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor2/mods/1126 The Modder has successfully fixed the glitch. We can see that it is possible to cover the broken models with fixed models.

I would also ask any Modder if interested, to convert these for the first game? Send them to my mail box or upload them?

(K1) Blue, Green, Yellow, And Red Hilt Models look glitched.

(K2) Blue, Green, Yellow, Viridian, Silver, and bronze Hilt models look glitched. 

- Within both games only purple, cyan, And orange/HOTG have the proper renditioning from the back and sides.

- I'm aware of most all saber blade mods. The crazy 34 versions also. Please don't suggest any of those :) They can also fall victim to the glitch. I'm mainly pointing out a bug/glitch. I tried them all and I would much prefer improvements with the originals :) 

- The center of bio wares blade textures were made rather circular. They really should have stayed triangular or elliptical making sure the outer beam/glow wrapped around the tip/core more.
Also the spiky tip glitch is also present. I'm not too much concerned for it however.

The earlier beta stages of Kotor or much of the concept art depictions had triangular shaped saber beams. It would be nice to get those beta stage saber beams for an alternative. 

If anyone wishes to fix this issue, it would be a great addition to the community patch. It's completely solvable without any need to overhaul or create alternatives. Most lightsaber hilt models have the glitch and it really doesn't have to be there anymore. 

For more comparison: The difference between purple (fixed) and blue (broken) so very broken.....

Now the beta KOTOR had triangular shapes which I thought looked cool. But could use a better pointed tip. Thanks to N-drew for the images. I have enjoyed using his beta textures.

[JacoJam321]

Greetings modders have I got your attention? Please find a solution to fix the broken lightsaber models. Blue, green, red, yellow, viridian, silver, and bronze hilt models are all broken. Bioware successfully gave Cyan, Orange, and purple proper blade display. Thank you. I really appreciate what modders have done to improve the quality of Kotor.

But I do not why one of the most obvious bugs has taken so long to fix!

 

[StellarExile]

14 minutes ago, JacoJam321 said:

Greetings modders have I got your attention? Please find a solution to fix the broken lightsaber models. Blue, green, red, yellow, viridian, silver, and bronze hilt models are all broken. Bioware successfully gave Cyan, Orange, and purple proper blade display. Thank you. I really appreciate what modders have done to improve the quality of Kotor.

But I do not why one of the most obvious bugs has taken so long to fix!

 

Try this mod: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1846-new_lightsaber_blade_model_k1/

[JacoJam321]

Thanks. I will clarify that this in the category of bug fixes. Not me playing or experiment with mods I am already familiar with :)

This a bug fix request. We need a modification to correct the original saber beams that developers messed up with. 

This has nothing to do with trying out the various overhauls or retextures that offer alternatives away from biowares original art style. 

Only the hilt models introduce the glitch.

This bug glitch has no need to be in existence.

So not to be confused. We are actually NOT dealing with saber blade/laser textures. 

The bug glitch has been identified solely within the broken hilt models only.

KOTOR  is a game I have been playing for over a decade. Probably longer. I examined this bug thoroughly and very certain of it.

I will ride off into the sunset when this issue is officially resolved

[Thor110]

5 hours ago, JacoJam321 said:

The bug glitch has been identified solely within the broken hilt models only.

Given that the bug or glitch has been clearly identified, perhaps you could go about fixing it yourself?

5 hours ago, JacoJam321 said:

I will ride off into the sunset when this issue is officially resolved

Unfortunately many of us are busy with our own projects and are unable to dedicate time towards something such as this, though I certainly hope someone takes care of it!

[RonRheaBob76]

🔍 Technical Analysis: Resolving the Vanilla Lightsaber Hilt Bug in KotOR I & II

🛠️ Troubleshooting Overview & Context

Tools Utilized: 💻 KotOR Blender, 🛠️ KotOR Tool, and 🔢 Hex Editing.

Investment: ⏱️ Lots of hours.

Core Discovery: 🎯 Most definitely a legitimate bug or glitch, and glad someone else raised the subject. It's certainly possible somehow, but it requires somebody with greater modding knowledge. The error was pinpointed as emanating not from blade textures, but strictly from the hilt models.

📊 Comparative Analysis: Model A vs. Model B

The effort was organized like this:

Model A:

Colors: 🔵 Blue, 🟢 Green, 🔴 Red, 🟡 Yellow, and Bronze (introduced via TSLRCM).

Status: ⚠️ Broken/glitched. Less bright from behind. Brighter at the front with straighter blade geometry only at the front.

Model B:

Colors: 🟠 Orange/HOTG, 🩵 Cyan/MOTF, 🟣 Purple, plus Silver and Viridian (under KotOR 2).

Status: ✨ Appears normal from behind with a slight distortion (very minimal) from the front. The saber blades do not thin out but rather keep the same brightness at the back and front. 

✨ This model is much nicer and perfectly acceptable as a vanilla lightsaber.

💡 Context Note: Within KotOR 2 we have Silver and Viridian under Model B. TSLRCM introduces bronze under Model A. To fix the cyan bug glitch, it will change to Model A. (loading in to new areas)

🚀 Conclusion & Next Steps

The Final Verdict: 🏆 No doubts about it. Model B is your winner. Somebody just needs to get all the hilts on the same footing :) All the hilts should be changed under Model B. This provides a better visual from both behind and in front with very minimal distortion at the front.

Overcoming Distortion: Alongside a model B conversion, depending on the various saber blade textures provided, one might be able to completely overcome the distortion. Perhaps certain animations or blade effects can produce the illusion that it's not there.

Community Call to Action: The initial mod request was honest, upfront, and determined to find a fix. The lack of a constructive response—and telling the person behind those requests to do it themselves—was disappointing to discover when there are clearly people with the correct model-fixing expertise, such as leading Deadly Stream modders. It is unfortunate that vanilla lightsabers could have ended up as so much more, and fully resolving this requires a collaborative group effort rather than a single person's burden.

🙌 If any experienced modders fix the vanilla hilts, please upload and post the models for the community.  

Keep fixing bugs and glitches; stay on them like white on rice. Nobody wants bugs and glitches in their games. 

No drama, toxic comments, arguments, and disagreements. Please arrive at this fix with a committed effort and emotional maturity.

I will not return/respond to negative comments and opposition towards a proven fact. 

The model A lightsaber hilts are broken and they need to be fixed. 

This bug/glitch should not exist for such a popular and well loved game.

Thank you. May the force be with you. 

[Sith Holocron]

Pretty ballsy for your first post!

[RonRheaBob76]

Not ballsy, just overdue math and mesh. When a bug has lived in plain sight for two decades, pointing out the coordinate fix isn't bold—it's just turning on the lights.

A passionate star wars wishing for the further success of KOTOR.

I would like any proceeding comments to please involve solutions, insightfulness, and any helpful information to resolve this glaring and unacceptable bug/glitch.

Thanks.

[Vriff]

3 hours ago, RonRheaBob76 said:

Not ballsy, just overdue math and mesh. When a bug has lived in plain sight for two decades, pointing out the coordinate fix isn't bold—it's just turning on the lights.

A passionate star wars wishing for the further success of KOTOR.

I would like any proceeding comments to please involve solutions, insightfulness, and any helpful information to resolve this glaring and unacceptable bug/glitch.

Thanks.

Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about apple pie and club soda.

[LordMerek]

6 hours ago, RonRheaBob76 said:

Not ballsy, just overdue math and mesh. When a bug has lived in plain sight for two decades, pointing out the coordinate fix isn't bold—it's just turning on the lights.

A passionate star wars wishing for the further success of KOTOR.

I would like any proceeding comments to please involve solutions, insightfulness, and any helpful information to resolve this glaring and unacceptable bug/glitch.

Thanks.

I'm not sure why you thought posting in a two-year old thread just to complain and demand things of others was a good idea.

[J]

@RonRheaBob76your ai post is nonsensical and distracting.

If anyone is curious about the issue, it's been fixed. The blade meshes and UVs were uneven and some were missing the node type lightsaber.

I included these fixes in my lightsabers mod for K1 and TSL, if anyone wants a reference.

https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2794-lightsaber-hilt-variety-tsl

[N-DReW25]

12 hours ago, RonRheaBob76 said:

Not ballsy, just overdue math and mesh. When a bug has lived in plain sight for two decades, pointing out the coordinate fix isn't bold—it's just turning on the lights.

A passionate star wars wishing for the further success of KOTOR.

I would like any proceeding comments to please involve solutions, insightfulness, and any helpful information to resolve this glaring and unacceptable bug/glitch.

Thanks.

As a fellow passionate Star Wars myself, let me give you my take on the bug in your own language:

 

Spoiler

🔍 Technical Analysis: Resolving the AI Slop Verdict

🛠️ Troubleshooting Overview & Context

Tools Utilized: 💻 Emotional Maturity, 🛠️ Reading Comprehension, and 🔢 Final Verdict Editing.

Investment: ⏱️ Lots of words.

Core Discovery: 🎯 Most definitely a legitimate response or reply, and glad someone else raised the subject. It's certainly possible somehow, but it requires somebody with greater responding knowledge. The error was pinpointed as emanating not from the response itself, but strictly from the request requesting the response.

📊 Comparative Analysis: Response A vs. Response B

The effort was organized like this:

Response A:

Colors: 🔵 Blue, 🟢 Green, 🔴 Red, 🟡 Yellow, and Emotional Maturity (introduced via the request).

Status: ⚠️ Broken/glitched. Less readable from behind. More readable at the front with straighter sentence geometry only at the front.

Response B:

Colors: 🟠 Orange/HOTG, 🩵 Cyan/MOTF, 🟣 Purple, plus AI and Slop (under the final verdict).

Status: ✨ Appears normal from behind with a slight response (very minimal) from the front. The words do not thin out but rather keep the same words at the back and front.

✨ This response is much nicer and perfectly acceptable as a response.

💡 Context Note: Within Response B we have AI and Slop under the Final Verdict. Response A introduces emotional maturity under Response A. To fix the response bug glitch, it will change to Response B. (loading in to new responses)

🟢 Welcome to the colony of M4-78. I am the supervisor of this installation, and have been designated with the title M4-78. 🟢

🚀 Conclusion & Next Steps

The Final Verdict: 🏆 No doubts about it. Response B is your winner. Somebody just needs to get all the responses on the same footing All the responses should be changed under Response B. This provides a better response from both behind and in front with very minimal responding at the front.

Overcoming Response: Alongside a Response B conversion, depending on the various words provided, one might be able to completely overcome the response. Perhaps certain sentences or paragraphs can produce the illusion that something has actually been said.

Community Call to Action: The initial response was honest, upfront, and determined to respond. The lack of a constructive response—and telling the person behind the response that their AI couldn't even be read by a human—was disappointing to discover when there are clearly people with the correct responding expertise.

🙌 If any experienced responders fix the response, please upload and post the response for the community.

Keep responding to responses; stay on them like white on rice. Nobody wants responses and replies in their responses.

No drama, toxic comments, arguments, and disagreements. Please arrive at this response with a committed effort and emotional maturity.

I will not return/respond to negative responses and opposition towards a proven response.

The response A responses are broken and they need to be responded to.

This response should not exist for such a popular and well loved response.

🍎 Apple Pie & Club Soda: The Final Resolution 🥤

Apple pie sits beneath the sky,
Club soda bubbles, asking why.
The apples respond, the pastry knows,
Yet nobody knows where the soda goes.

🥧 Crust at the front, crust at the back,
🥤 Club soda remains on the same footing
🍎 Perhaps certain apples can overcome distortion,
✨ Perhaps the bubbles require emotional maturity.

The Final Verdict: 🏆 Apple pie.

The Final Final Verdict: 🥤 Club soda.

Thank you. May the pie be with you.

 

[Sith Holocron]

"🟢 Welcome to the colony of M4-78. I am the supervisor of this installation, and have been designated with the title M4-78. 🟢"

On second thought, the welcome to @RonRheaBob76has been rescinded.

[RonRheaBob76]

So the responses have been childish, irrelevant, and insulting and fail to present any viable solutions or find a committed person to fix vanilla lightsabers. Even though I said I would not respond to toxic replies. It paints a bad image or stains the entire objective and may even dissuade a talented modder from actually fixing the vanilla hilts. There are no demands made from either the original post or mine. There is no negativity, no aggression, no toxic behavior, no invite towards contention, and certainly ZERO bullying from either myself or the original mod request. If you do not believe that this is a bug/glitch needing to be fixed or you have perspectives that oppose our previous investigations, then do not waste your own time and effort in responding to this mod request. Have I made that very clear to people?

I am only looking to fix vanilla lightsabers. Send the fix to my mailbox or upload as a mod if anyone succeeds at fixing strictly the aurora/original hilt models.

If your perspective deviates from this mod request than find something else to do. It is a proven fact that vanilla lightsabers are broken and need to be restored to a better visual. There is people in this world who will appreciate this fix. Do not be so ignorant and lean on your own understandings as the only righteous truth in existence.

I have personally spoken to the person behind the original mod request. He was happy to have support. Yes there is two years between now and then. Who cares? Why even attempt to make that an issue?

In fact why is anyone even treating this as some complication or negativity entity? 

You people need to read things a lot more carefully and understand that the tonality of a mod request, unless it truly contains rude demands (report to administrators) needs NOT have your own disgraceful opposition. Instead seek to alleviate, reason, and come to solutions with an otherwise polite and factual mod request. Of course this extends to multiple mod requests over the years that have been clearly mistreated. I can find many of them.

It does not matter if your focused on your own projects and cannot commit to fixing vanilla lightsabers. Simply do not reply. You do not have to throw something into a trash can because you can't be bothered with it. It is ridiculous behavior.

LordMerek

What does apple pie and club soda have to do with a concerted effort towards fixing a bug/glitch that produces distorted visuals? Do you have problems reading things carefully? I specifically requested not making demands that this post be responded to with emotional maturity and helpful information that is relevant to fixing the issue. This does not show love for KOTOR at all and the resolving of a game-related issue. Is it not a good idea to reinforce a very honest and upfront mod request from someone? Let me tell you very honestly it should not take two years to improve visuals for this beloved game. Unless you're misinterpreting the tonality of the mod request and my very detailed guide that helps to pinpoint the issue?

J

Hello, your mod does not involve vanilla lightsaber models. Those are strictly retextured hilt models under a different art style and completely separated hilt configuration as originally provided by Crazy 34. Your mod certainly seems incomplete. There are no matching hilt icons, and the saber blade textures that you recommend for use (made by JC) result in very squarish shapes not resembling anything a lightsaber blade should. Having said that, your mod is still on a correct trajectory or beginning that could result in a much better visual. Provided the player is interested in retextures and deviation from original vanilla art styles. AI can be used to help display a clarity of well-driven details in a structure that makes concise and well-understood sentences. This was my choice to use. It involves my own choice of words and thoughts. It is disgraceful to term my analysis as nonsensical, which is not even remotely true, and how is it distracting? You have to be kidding me. Distracting? I fail to see the logic in your words. I find your response to be insulting and ignorant towards my previous request to only insert helpful information.   

N-DReW25

As a previous big fan of your mods, your post is very disappointing and incredibly rude. A passionate Star Wars fan does not berate, bully, or condescend another fan. Your choice of words does not properly reflect or represent a Star Wars fan. If you are concerned about mods and improving the visuals of the game, which you have provided mod fixes in the past, by the way, you would understand the concern towards fixing a bug/glitch. It is not nice to make jokes, and this type of disgusting behavior from people needs to stop. Either help out with a bug fix or do not help or respond. Childish jokes and taking the effort to reword my helpful analysis into something I find very insulting is not acceptable behavior towards another passionate Star Wars fan. You also berated a typo, and you could have politely pointed that error out. Instead, you chose to be rude about it. I did notice it earlier and could have fixed if I wanted to. 

You failed to respond to my post properly by avoiding toxic comments. Shame on you. I have removed every mod of yours from my Override and will never use them again.

If you're going to make the claim that you're a passionate Star Wars fan, this means you love and support Star Wars. Your comment shows a bad representation of this website and what it stands for.  

I am a human being with feelings, sir, not AI. This type of demeanor is what I specifically and kindly requested that people avoid. You have wasted your own time and energy in a very childish response; instead, you could have written a more intelligent response that offers more clues or possible methods by which to fix vanilla lightsabers. Regarding the use of AI, there is nothing wrong with using it for a well-detailed and articulated analysis that helps to reinforce a previous mod request. I am shining more light and clarity on a glaring issue. Do you misunderstand the objective of the mod request and the tone of either myself or the previous post from two years ago? Explain to me the purpose of having mod requests on this website if you, the modders, cannot even treat people with respect and admiration for identifying a bug/glitch? I am going to ask you to please fix your demeanor towards another Star Wars fan, especially after asking people to avoid toxic responding and to only provide helpful information. My choice to use AI to structure and add clarity with well-driven details was my own choice. I do not deserve this type of treatment from Deadly Stream when people are supposed to be here representing a passion for Star Wars and not a commitment towards bullying another person. Thank you.

Explain the apple pie and club soda references? How is that joke relevant to finding a fix for vanilla lightsabers? Do you understand or even acknowledge that there is a bug involved with vanilla lightsabers? If you do not believe or care and are more inclined to make lame jokes, then why waste your energy on this mod request? 

I am incredibly disappointed that this mod request (one that I chose to politely reinforce because not one person out of many modders cared to fix)

That it features such ignorant and toxic replies so early on. I was hoping for more intelligent responses and solutions.

So I will state very clearly for anyone else reading. I am not the rude, demanding, nonsensical, and AI-slop that was very incorrectly and disgracefully mentioned by rude mod authors.

I came onto this website to seek a solution and reinforce a very upfront and honest mod request that pinpoints broken lightsaber hilt models with blue, green, yellow, and red. For both games.

Can somebody please switch those models to reflect the nature of orange, cyan, viridian, silver, etc.? Model B was the chosen reference for those models.

Again, I will state. I am a passionate Star Wars fan who greatly loves Star Wars and KOTOR.

I do not love toxic behavior from people, false statements, and lame jokes.

Administrators if cannot properly have mod requests featured on this website I recommend that you remove this option.

Your the people that created drama when you were told not to. So I felt compelled to call that out. 

And may the force be with those who wish to help this mod request in a mature manner.   

[J]

No your LLM is wrong. The lightsaber models I posted are using vanilla models as a base. Yes the hilts are heavily modified but the blade meshes are edited to be mathematically symetrical. I offered it as a reference, on how to fix this issue, for future mods.

Edited 1 hour ago by J

[Fair Strides]

@RonRheaBob76 Among many things, you claim to be a passionate Star Wars fan and you were clear in your initial response to a 2-year-old thread to avoid toxicity and insulting comments. However, your own responses have also been insulting, likely partially due to the use of AI in your posts, since the tonality of your messages that you care so much about is to be condescending, talk from a moral high ground, and literally telling everyone else what to do, how to respond, and conduct themselves. That is not your right, any more than it's the right of another user to do so. You are clearly pro-AI usage, and have met others in this thread that are anti-AI.

A few mods have been linked and posted here for your perusal. Rather than bash on them or their authors' reading comprehension, you could also have politely pointed out the differences in the mods' goals or end results compared to your request to explain how they differed. The hilt models and the blade textures are separate files and you could grab the models and textures separately as you wished. Instead, you chose to insult J's abilities. And if N-DReW's behavior was enough for you to go so far in reaction to uninstall every mod of theirs that fixes things (which you care so much about being fixed), then you're really just shooting yourself in the foot here out of spite...

Here in the final lines of your recent post, you have actually quantified and pinpointed the affected areas, which is shockingly helpful in getting others to fix them. That being said, no one is beholden to answer every request. You claim to be passionate and came to this site because of that passion. Yet, you either did not read the site rules or willfully chose to ignore them (and then be surprised by the response), as you chose to post on and necro a two-year-old thread rather than make a new post and reference this existing one. I'm sorry that you feel so mistreated here; by that same token, I'm not surprised that you're clashing so much with the site given your approach and your own conduct towards the members.

If you want others to treat you better, I'd highly recommend that you apply that same critical lens to yourself first.

[Kaidon Jorn]

Nevermind

Edited 21 minutes ago by Kaidon Jorn