Game Breaking Crash at Great Walkway

[Masirimso24 4]

Hello everyone,

I've been going through a new playthrough of KOTOR recently, and hit a really critical bug. NDrew probably already knows the issues I ran into already, but this late one happens right after the encounter with the Czerka slavers who have killed the Wookiee, in the large walkway that leads you to your first encounters with the Mykals.

So I uninstalled and reinstalled everything--4CD install (PAL), 1.03 patch, widescreen patches, new 4K movies, community patch, latest versions of every mod, and weeded out some redundant or conflicting mods. And as I suspected, the far fresher install seems to have the mods all working together well. However, even when I start a new game, the issue persists. Just to check, I started a completely new game, warped to the same location, and still the issue persists in the exact same location.

The game also inconsistently crashes after battles, conversations, when I switch to the player/character attributes screen or just randomly, so I've been playing the game so far just crazily saving and quicksaving. It hasn't been THAT annoyingly frequent, thankfully. But in places like the Kinrath Cave at Dantooine for example, saving and reloading to progress between the crashes was especially annoying, but I did it. However, this Great Walkway crash is consistent, and saving and loading around it, as if I save close or at the crash area, the save just does not load either and crashes the game.

I thought it might be an issue playing at 4K, but downscaling does not fix the problem either. But when I play vanilla, new game, warp over to that location, the game does not crash, so it's definitely a mod issue. But what mod is causing both the inconsistent crashing and the Great Walkway crash I have no idea. I'll be listing my mods below, but I have no idea what the issue might be.

I wondered if it might be "party conversations" trying to trigger but the "party conversations at the ebon hawk" mod screwing it up, but to test it I tried to continue without any party members at the great walkway but it still crashes at the same location.

QUESTION--I heard something about "placeables" causing problems but I have no idea what that is, is it something about how too many additions or changes to the modules can cause problems in the game or something?

I have a 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700F processor, 32 GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 and 64 bit operating system.

Here are my mods and the links to them--consistent to the order I installed them:

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PC Response Moderation version of Dialogue Fixes: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1313-kotor-dialogue-fixes/

Sunry Murder Recording Enhancement: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/324-sunry-murder-recording-enhancement/

K1 Community Patch: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1258-kotor-1-community-patch/

Unofficial K1CP Tweak Pack: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2081-unofficial-k1cp-tweak-pack/

Restored Content for K1CP: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2345-restored-content-for-k1cp-demo/

Better Male Twi'lek Heads: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1430-k1-better-male-twilek-heads/

KotOR 1 Twi'lek Male NPC Diversity: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2228-kotor-1-twilek-male-npc-diversity/

NPC Diversity Pack: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2246-npc-diversity-pack-betak1/

Galaxy of Faces: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2386-galaxy-of-faces-k1/

K1 Alien Pack: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2749-k1-alien-pack/

K1 Clothing Pack: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2310-k1-clothing-pack/

High Quality Skyboxes II: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/723-high-quality-skyboxes-ii/

High Quality Cockpit Skyboxes: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/938-high-quality-cockpit-skyboxes/

Yavin Station Hangar: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2068-yavin-station-hangar/

High Quality Blasters: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/915-high-quality-blasters/

Movie Mandalorians: From K2 to K1: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2369-movie-mandalorians-from-k2-to-k1/

Sleheyron- Story Mode: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2754-sleheyron-story-mode/

Spectral Ajunta Pall Canonical Appearance: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1276-spectral-ajunta-pall-canonical-appearance/

Legends - Ajunta Pall's Blade: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1338-k1-legends-ajunta-palls-blade/

All Hands On Deck for Leviathan Prison Break: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2097-all-hands-on-deck-for-the-leviathan-prison-break/

Movie Style Holograms: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1736-movie-style-holograms-for-twisted-rancor-trio-puzzle/

https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1346-movie-style-rakatan-holograms/

https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1342-movie-style-holograms-for-end-game-cutscenes/

Dark Side Ending Cutscene Enhancement: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1958-dark-side-ending-cutscene-enhancement/

Diversified Jedi Captives on the Star Forge: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1199-diversified-jedi-captives-on-the-star-forge/

Diversified Wounded Republic Soldiers on Taris: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1179-diversified-wounded-republic-soldiers-on-taris/

Dodonna's Transmission: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1101-dodonna’s-transmission/

Selven Legends: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1308-k1-selven-legends/

Taris Dueling Arena Adjustment: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1404-taris-dueling-arena-adjustment/

Taris Escape Sequence Adjustments: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1192-taris-escape-sequence-adjustments/

A Crashed Republic Cruiser on a Nameless World: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1878-a-crashed-republic-cruiser-on-a-nameless-world/

Duros Armed and Ready: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2320-duros-armed-ready/

Ebon Hawk Camera Replacement: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/827-ebon-hawk-camera-replacement/

Light Side Ending Masters Fix: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1376-light-side-ending-masters/

Female Republic Soldier Restoration: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2022-female-republic-soldier-restoration/

Ladies of the Sith Army: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2141-ladies-of-the-sith-army/

KOTOR 1 HK-47 Power Blast Fix (this one seems to be unavailable now)

Iriaz on Dantooine: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1354-iriaz-on-dantooine/

JC's Biromantic Bastila: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1548-jcs-romance-enhancement-biromantic-bastila-for-k1/

Jolee in Unique Outfit Introduction: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1298-jolee-in-unique-outfit-introduction/

Party Conversations on Ebon Hawk: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2284-party-conversations-on-ebon-hawk/

Keep the Krayt Dragon Pearl: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1910-request-keep-the-krayt-dragon-pearl/

Leviathan Differentiated Dialogue: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/895-leviathan-differentiated-dialogue/

Manaan Hotel Missing Room: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2560-manaan-hotel-missing-room/

Manaan Pazaak Tournament: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2761-manaan-pazaak-tournament/

Manaan Taxi: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2739-manaan-fast-travel-system/

Tower of Hanoi Puzzle Bypass: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1912-tower-of-hanoi-puzzle-bypass/

Revan's Flowing Cape and Belt Fix: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/709-revans-flowing-cape-and-belt-fix/

Sherruk With Lightsabers Redux: https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/mods/1337

Sith Tracker Trio Funny Dialogue: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1340-sith-tracker-trio-funny-dialogue/

Tarisian NPC Names (not overhaul, also no links I could find anymore)

Thematic The One: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2467-thematic-the-one/

Useful Sith Lightsaber: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2606-useful-sith-lightsaber/

Ultimate Sound Mod: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/685-ultimate-sound-mod/

JC's Sound Effects for K1: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1223-jcs-sound-effects-for-k1/

Another Tach Voice Replacer: https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/mods/1299

K1 Ported Alien VO Replacements: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1426-k1-ported-alien-vo-replacements/

Mysterious Box Music for Unknown World: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1322-mysterious-box-music-for-unknown-world/

KotOR1 T3-M4 Voice Module Upgrade: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2308-kotor1-t3-m4-voice-module-upgrade/

JC's Republic Soldier Fix for K1: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1180-jcs-republic-soldier-fix-for-k1/

Republic Soldier's New Shade: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1365-k1-republic-soldiers-new-shade/

Fixed Cantina Sitters: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2773-fixed-cantina-sitters/

Carth's Republic Uniform and Flight Suit: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2490-carths-republic-uniform-and-flight-suit/

JC's Czerka: Business Attire: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2309-jcs-czerka-business-attire-for-k1/

Czerka on Korriban: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2332-czerka-on-korriban/

Czerka Redux: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2469-czerka-redux/

Czerka Miners on Tatooine: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2538-czerka-miners-on-tatooine/

Dantooine Training Lightsabers: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/704-dantooine-training-lightsabers/

Children NPC Fixes: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1984-children-npc-fixes/

Swoop platform model repairs: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/2723-k1-swoop-platform-model-repairs/

K1 Galaxy Map Fix Pack: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1068-k1-galaxy-map-fix-pack/

TOR Ports: KOTOR Comic Republic Uniforms: https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1347-tor-ports-kotor-comic-republic-uniforms-for-k1/

And a lot of simple texture mods.

I just seem to be stuck with this godawful crash, unable to figure out which mods are causing these problems, even with a completely fresh reinstall and healthy mod installation the issue persists. Am I just not allowed to play this anymore lmao. Well, jokes aside I would really appreciate the help on this!

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Masirimso24

[DarthParametric 3,927]

First of all, change that mod list to text links, not embeds. You'll get a prompt when you paste a link to embed it or not. It's obnoxiously large currently.

Hard crashes are typically a sign of the game trying to spawn missing content, usually creatures/NPCs via an appearance.2da row to that points to a model that does not exist. Unfortunately, KOTOR doesn't provide any useful logs to help pinpoint this kind of thing. But if you're crashing at the same spot, it's presumably a creature model that the game is trying to render that doesn't exist. Attach the appearance.2da file from your Override folder.

14 minutes ago, Masirimso24 said:

4CD install (PAL)

Just so you know, there's no such concept as PAL for PC. That's a TV standard (50Hz display vs NTSC 60Hz) and only applies to console.

[Masirimso24 4]

3 minutes ago, DarthParametric said:

First of all, change that mod list to text links, not embeds. You'll get a prompt when you paste a link to embed it or not. It's obnoxiously large currently.

Hard crashes are typically a sign of the game trying to spawn missing content, usually creatures via an appearance.2da row to that points to a model that does not exist. Unfortunately, KOTOR doesn't provide any useful logs to help pinpoint this kind of thing. But if you're crashing at the same spot, it's presumably a creature model that the game is trying to render that doesn't exist. Attach the appearance.2da file from your Override folder.

Just so you know, there's no such concept as PAL for PC. That's a TV standard (50Hz display vs NTSC 60Hz) and only applies to console.

It just automatically happened and I didn't think much of it. I can do that at the first convenience if the problem isn't resolved. My bad.

appearance.2da Here's my appearance.2da file

True, I just got used to saying PAL in regards to DVD and TV I guess. European I should clarify.

Thanks for the reply!

[DarthParametric 3,927]

Nothing obvious springs out. Attach your placeables.2da as well, and kas_m22ab.mod from your Modules folder.

Also going to need a listing of your Override folder. You have two options. You can do it manually by opening a cmd terminal in that folder and using dir /b /s > dir.txt or use the download the  attached batch file, put it in your Override, then double click it. Either way, attach the dir.txt file when done.

Dump_File_List.bat

[Masirimso24 4]

Thanks, here they are. Also fixed the links above. (should I add the texture mods as well? they're all just tpc and tga files, and txi, mdx, mdl etc. for models)

kas_m22aa.mod placeables.2da dir.txt