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KOTOR1 used the SF from the start though (Republic is falling, Sith have unlimited resources, how did this happen, all is lost if nothing changes, FIX IT). Compare that to "LOL, Superweapon" in TFA. Also KOTOR was fine since it was, well, the first... having it done *again* so soon is just... not quite as interesting anymore. But then again from KOTOR1 came KOTOR2, and the movie is not bad by itself (just, the superweapon bit). So the word isn't "angry" but as stated "dissapointed". We didn't wait 10 years for the same story again, I want something new, fresh. TFA did not supply, sadly enough. @ 1Leonard: Okay, without reading anything, tell us why the Republic and Resistance are seperate. How did the First Order rise to power. How did a Sith Lord exist besides Sideous and Vader. What exactly transpired that lead to the victory of VI going back to the galaxy situation of IV? And yes, Midichlorian are still stupid as idea. And to finish it off, sadly, TOR is still cannon even when KOTOR1 and KOTOR2 are not. So very sad.

Oh, young Padawan. Much of the Force you have to learn still, yes... And I'm pretty sure I've given plenty of accounts why the superweapon didn't work and what IMO would work much better instead, only to get a "You SW-fans are a disgrace. If you don't like this movie I hate you!" back. What is this? Episode III?

So far the only SW-fan I find obnoxious is you. And "I think this, I am right, you are wrong. If you disagree with me you're a horrible person. That's fact" only reinforces that.

Because it really feels like ANH re-done and I was hoping to see a *new* Star Wars movie? It's... really not that hard. And we already explained why it's completely ridicilous in this movie.

You keep saying that... but I don't think anyone in this thread besides you believes it. I certainly never met Star Wars fans like that. It seems you have a pretty skifted view, and no I don't like being compared to it like it's some fact...

And thus, it had no place. It was all "Find Luke, find Luke, find Luke, find Luke... suddenly... superweapon... superweapon dead?... okay, deus ex machina resolution to find Luke... and; movie's over. See how it could have been omitted. Heck, it BEING omitted would have improved the movie? It seriously is just... there... no reason, no specific plots, au contraire, it's a plotholder!

Someone mentioned not understanding ANH's plot. That's weird... the whole movie revolves around the Death Star (it's plans need to get to the rebellion remember). The plans end up with Luke, and he takes them to the rebellion, the rebels take it out. I'm not quite sure what's confusing about that. And much as above poster says that the superweapon WASN'T part of the plot and shoe-horned in helps making it feel tacked on (since, well, it's tacked on). They could have *easily* gone with both bad guys and good guys find Luke's location, big battle ensues over arriving first... all the "superweapon planet" stuff could have been moved to a spaceship above Luke's planet. Bam... would fit in the plot, and most probably would be 300% better. Sure, saving someone from a ship *again* could be seen as repeating ANH again... but well... it would have suited the movie more than the current predicament. Heck, they could have copied over the Telos Revisited section of KOTOR2 entirely and I'd be happy. Not "suuuudenly... SUPERWEAPON! Who's that Luke?"

* In the old movies they did explain it would need the Force to wield lightsabers without just cutting yourself to pieces... here; not so much. Even if Finn isn't great at it, he does seem to handle it (and he hit Ben Solo). * Sounds like Disciple, still needs training though to be a Force User. * I don't... the EU had some pretty silly and unforgivable weaponry in it. One reason I'm not sad it's conned. * The movie could have worked perfectly well without the super-weapon. I mean; the main plot was going for Skywalker anyway. No superweapon needed there. It felt tacked on for the sake of having a super-weapon. * Still, you would expect bombers to accompany a bombing run, no matter how upgraded the fighters are. * I like II and III. Sadly, I do feel this one's sticking way too close to IV.

Considering there's literally nothing there, it would be hard to judge.

Well, I would give it around 6.5/10. It's not horrible but I expected much much better. I have to agree with most things Zbyl say. Why are there a New Republic AND Resistance? How did the First Order rise from the ashes of a destroyed Empire which had no more power? Where does Snoke come from in a Jedi and Sith-less galaxy? (Atleast Ben was explained). And to answer the question, it was stated in the movie Luke removed himself after his student fell to the dark side. Ben Solo that was. If any other students where mentioned I missed that, just the one. Which answered where a Sith came from post-ROTJ. But still, what's up with Snoke? Though also in TPM's defense, it's a lot easier to portray a diplomatic galaxy-wide democracy than it is a dictatorship. Some other irksome stuff of the movie: * A lightsaber is a Jedi weapon. Here; everyone can just use it with the flick of a button, even Finn. Heck, he even beats the Jedi, the ones who where supposed to be the only lightsaber users without cutting their own limbs off? Why? * Likewise the female Skywalker (no way she's not related) suddenly gaining all powers without training, you know, unlike Luke or Anakin, THE MOST POWERFUL JEDI IN THE GALAXY mind you, seems... well, super-cheap. I was kinda expecting the Stormtrooper to walk to the door and then sarcastically comment he's joking like the first time... or when he opened the door Ben Solo was there instead. But big was my suprise when it turned out... it was working instead. And... out of the movie into the "wtf?" area. * Complete rehash of IV. Droid send with information to planet made of sand, meets a Skywalker, meet resistance, blow up superweapon. Well, all check. * Talking about superweapons... really... REALLY? You don't need to have a 4x Death Star to make a good movie, thank you. Infact the stupidness of this weapon did infact degree my enjoyment of the movie. Seriously, no more superweapons please. This isn't The Old Republic where BioWare is so out-of-ideas there are 3 super-weapons per planet to take out, if not more. * Sometimes a bit too much overacting on Rey and Finn, which got annoying. When they weren't shouting or going "woooooo, that's *one* good pilot!" it was much better. * A distinction was made between stormtroopers and clone troopers was made, which was a nice touch, but they didn't really went far with it afterwards, sadly enough. Talking about stormtroopers, they HIT stuff. So non-Star Warsy. Total canon-break So yeah... definitely too many points of annoyance to make me go all "great movie!" Sticking close to ANH, then completely overpower *everything* (super-weapon, Jedi) doesn't make a better movie. EDIT: Thought of another "why?" during the movie... * With the bombing run they use X-Wings too, X-Wings are fighters though, the Y-Wings are for bombing... but... no Y-Wings anywhere to be found. Why?

Spoilerfree I was rather dissapointed. My girlfriend thought it was better than all other 6 though (that blasphemer!). You can in many ways compare it to KOTOR. In that it's the original trilogy with new characters again (like KOTOR), with an oponent that looks like Revan (also without mask due to MMO-stuffs). I mean the beginning is LITERALLY the start of episode IV. So yeah... while it was okay for KOTOR since it was "new", doing the whole repeat a second time is... a bit too much.

I'm not using the leaked version. Haven't really ran through it though, but did notice from a Kaevee comparrison it's much better for me than with the leak 0_o

1) Not a bug. 2) I'll look into that. 3) Never heard of this before. You mean the console with the camera's?

Nope, just installing them to different folders.

I would have to dig for that one. And you probably misread me, since that's exactly what I said about Goto's Yacht.

Pretty sure it's an issue with cloud saves, and happens during loading. Giving it another try it probably will load properly.

http://deadlystream.com/forum/topic/3080-how-to-enable-frame-buffer-effects-in-kotor-ii-with-ati-drivers

People never learn. http://steamcommunity.com/app/208580/discussions/0/492379439682713988/#c494632338491743765

The Tomb was originally on M4-78 before being moved (much like other M4 content went to Goto's Yacht).

I got 6 copies running; 4CD with TSLRP 4CD with TSLRCM and M4-78EP 4CD with TSLRCM GOG with TSLRCM and M4-78EP Steam with TSLRCM and M4-78EP 4CD fresh install with official patches

It's easter-egg mode only now.

The problem isn't people requesting mods. The issue is people going "this should be super-duper simple". If you have no idea how hard it is, just ask, not make such assumptions. I've seen enough 'Why not just port it over to the Crysis-engie, that should take 2 interns an hour' or 'Why not do [impossible thing here], that should be so very very easy' that just it really irks me when people think game development is so much easier than it really is.

So... 1.0? 1.0b? Or TSLRCM (which comes with the .exe anyway) 0_o You wont be able to use it though, so it's just a pic and music.