Xuul

Is this a Star Wars: Force and Destiny - Fantasy Flight Games kinda thing? Or a modified DnD kinda thing?

It's not intended to be negative. It is intended to be a realistic look at what could go wrong. I didn't go out of my way to research videogame IP and send emails to lawyers and all the other stuff about the project just to get attack Poem Studios. The article probably would have been more balanced had I the chance to talk to them about some things, but they are hard to get ahold of. If you like it, that's fine. The project might be good. But try to look at it realistically.

Now I dont think there is any legal precedent on what IS a mod. But even if it is a mod that doesn't make it legal in any way. That can just as easily be shut down. Skywind (Morrowind in the Skyrim Engine) uses all original assets and is considered a mod for SKYRIM not Morrowind. I'm curious how they plan to handle the dialogue.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to Deadlystream. The past few months have been eventful. The one topic that has out-shined all the others is a little project called “Apeiron” (A Greek word for "unlimited," or "infinite"). This controversial project will be the main topic of today’s post. So YES, I have heard about it. You can stop telling me about it now. As always, leave a comment to let me know what you think of this. What is Apeiron? To start off with we need to explain exactly WHAT Kotor: Apeiron actually is. Kotor Apeiron describes itself as a “Kotor Reboot”. The description on the site also uses the words “remake” and “remaster”. Put simply, this intrepid group of developers known as “Poem Studios” are planning to remake the original Knights of the Old Republic from the ground up. In this case the plan is to develop the game in a fully modern game engine, with HD graphics, updated gameplay and much, much more. Using the Unreal Engine (Think of games like Arkham City and Bioshock Infinite) the team will need to rebuild every planet, weapon, character and… well everything. Needless to say, this is most certainly a massive undertaking that is likely an order of magnitude above even TSLRCM. Sounds great! A brand new Kotor remake all for free! Well, not really. I know there are a lot of people who are very excited about this project but it important to realize that there are some very obvious problems with this remake. What are the problems with Apeiron? The problems with Apeiron that I am going to discuss come in 3 main categories. Scope Direction Legality Scope This is the biggest problem with all fan project s (and modding projects) the developers bite off far more than they can chew, over-promise and under deliver. Projects like this rarely pan out; they often require years and years of work to get right and even then can often have many limitations and problems. A clear example of this is the many attempts to restore content to KOTOR 2. While we now have TSLRCM there were several failed attempts before this to create a mod that restored many of the lost files from the game. These projects were big, but not nearly as massive as recreating an entire game in a new engine. A project this big will take a long time and a lot of people. This all costs money. Since the developers cannot take donations for this project. Having, ostensibly, a full time job while also developing an entire game with a limited team can lead to burnout. Direction Even if this project somehow manages to keep on track with its massive scale and delivers what it has promised this might not be enough. One of the main complaints from the many veterans of the Kotor community (the people STILL playing or STILL modding to this day) is that the project looks nothing like Kotor. I would have to agree with this, it looks like a Sci-Fi FPS and not the RPG that many people fell in love with. There have been concerns as to how the combat (particularly the melee combat) would transfer over to a new engine. One also needs to look at the models used in the current demos. Many of them look like pre-made models (that may not be used with the proper permissions). Overall, this won’t be a problem for everyone, but if you want to see more issues people have with the direction, then just take a look at THIS THREAD. Legal issues This is the big one. The law is complicated. So I did a lot of research and talked to a few experts to see just where exactly this project falls in terms of legality. I emailed Ryan Morris (the video game attorney), known for his crusade against Candy Crush creators King and its attempts to crackdown on usage of the word ‘Candy’ in video game titles & for leading the charge against the Fine Brothers attempts to trademark the word "React". He is a real attorney who specializes in IP and in particular video games (esports). He was kind enough to confirm some previous research I had compiled together and gave me a straight answer on the exact nature of this project , in terms of the law. He had this to say on the topic: “Fan projects are not "okay" or "absolutely" legal. They are quite the opposite, and there's a near zero percent chance this project sees the light of day. It's frustrating seeing people like this saying they want to take donations, yet basing their entire backing on nonsensical legal beliefs. For example, Black Mesa Source is a game made by a client of mine who has a license to make it.” Ryan put it in fairly plain words that he thinks this project will be taken down, and soon. The contrasts sharply with the initial disclaimer for the project that stated it was 100% legal. The developers of Apeiron are at the very least ignorant of how the law works. This lack of understanding is the biggest threat to this project. To put it frankly- this project is not legal. The developers are violating the Trademarks for Star Wars and Knights of the Old Republic. They are also violating the copyright for the game. Disney/EA has every single legal right to take the game down. While Ryan is an expert I felt he was being mildly disingenuous with his criticisms. While it is true that Black Mesa was done with permission, this permission was gotten AFTER the project had started. This is something that is technically still possible, but I still think the project will be taken down. Still not convinced the project will be taken down? This isn’t even the first time something like this has happened. A few years back there was a project called Kotor: Remastered. It originally was a retexture/remodeling project that morphed over time into an attempt to port Kotor over to the Unity Engine. Unsurprisingly, the project was given a takedown notice and ceased production. So there is very good evidence that this project will be taken down. In fact many people, Ryan Morris included, seem to think that a takedown is INEVITABLE. But it gets even more complicated than that. While the law is clear on this project, until the rights holders (Disney/EA/Lucasarts) actually issue a takedown notice this project will continue. There is also a (slim) possibility that the developers will get permission to release their project (with some specific restrictions). Overall I could talk about this for several more pages. I have already written and rewritten this section at least ten times, so I will leave it at that. Here is some further reading on the legality of fan projects if you are still unsure of my analysis. Legal FAQ Research Article Other things of note This topic took a lot of time to research and write. I actually had an article 2-3 times longer but cut it down so that people would bother reading it. Due to all the writing I had less time to round up links for you to enjoy but here are a few great ones. The Kotor subreddit is creating a compendium of fixes, tips, suggestions and general support questions. If you want to help with this or NEED help, check it out. Kotor might be canon again Want 100% compatible mod builds for kotor 1 and 2? HERE Sith Holocron is looking for help with a project. Read about it here. You can of course check out my Youtube channel. I am live-streaming mod testing every Friday. Watch my Twitter and Deadlystream Status for updates. If you like SWTOR, Shoelace has been playing it over on my channel as well. You can watch it here. Sith Holocron also has a SWTOR LP. Check it out on his channel. Here is a great list of other videomakers for Kotor stuff. I am sure you will like at least a few of them. Anyways, that is all I have today. Thanks for reading. As always, I have been Xuul. Have an excellent day. *I reached out to the Aperion Team who declined to comment*

Wrong. It's still infringement.

I've been lurking in this thread, as usual, and I think it might be worth me putting in my 2 cents. Removing TSLRCM would be a big mistake, especially for the reasons you listed. While I can understand that this is a inconvenience to you, and I agree that Valve is very poor at customer relations even at the best of times, taking the mod off Steam will not help you in any way. Removing the mod from Steam will not effect Valve, but it will harm the users. It comes across as petty to hold your mod hostage to get what you want. Obviously, the choice is yours, but I just want it to be know that I am VERY much against this. It leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth as well.

Welcome. It's always good to see a new face. I'm sure someday soon I will be talking about some of the great things you've made

Thank you both for the kind words. I don't want to say that this is my favorite thread on Deadlystream... But this is my favorite thread on Deadlystream

I have had windows 10 for a long while now. I have only had one game not work, and that was because it had not been released yet and my antivirus did not agree with it.

I get asked about it a lot. The Old Republic What do you think of SWTOR? Is it worth playing? Have you played it in the past? I played it at launch and enjoyed the class stories. After hitting level cap I grew bored quickly with the endgames and had no interest in repeating planets with new characters. My friends stopped playing and I let my subscription lapse. Since that point I have tried the game out a few times. Often a friend would be playing and I would join for a few days. When the first expansion was released I played for a week then gave up. Overall, I just did not really enjoy the game. It isn't that I don't like MMO's I have an ungodly amount of hours played in WoW. It was just that I found the game dry and the only two things I liked about the game, the story and socializing with my friends, had run dry. Despite this I would say that I get at least 3-5 requests a month to cover this game in some form. I have said I would get to it eventually and even posted on here a few times, but things never took off... Until recently... My friend Shoelace has always liked playing Swtor more than I have. He agreed to play through some of the game so he could "review" it for the channel officially so that I wouldn't have to. This lead to A weird role playing let's play that is equal parts silliness and time wasting. This group of videos started off very rough, since Shoe did not even know how to properly record or edit. The first few videos were not good. Poor quality, incorrect frame rate and audio issues were frequent and the host was not very accustomed to speaking for such a long point of time. Over time the quality has gone up and the videos have been fairly enjoyable to watch. For the fifth episode Shoelace thought it would be fun to run through the very first flashpoint in a rather "unique" way. In order for the story to work he need an accomplice (me). So I dusted off the old republic and leveled a sith warrior past the starting zone for my cameo. After that I didn't play again for a long time. I came back on another character temporarily for episode 10 as well but it wasn't anything worth talking about. For some reason I also agreed to feature in the 15th episode (chapter 2 episode 5). I watch all of these videos before I upload them just to make sure it isnt damaging to my brand. The chapter 2 videos made the game look fun again to me. A few days ago I realised I only had about a week to finish Kaas and Belmorra. So one night I loaded up the game, some music and just went down to bussiness. After getting to where I needed to be (thanks to the fact that I can skip part of the boring planet missions) I was still hungry for more. So I leveled another character. Then the next night I loaded up my old main and blasted though the rest of the Hutt Cartel story. And then I just kept playing. Currently I have been really enjoying Swtor again and I plan to check out what the most recent expansion has in store soon. What was the point of all this? The point of this blog is just to say that I'm playing Swtor again and if anyone wants to hang out and play for a bit you can message me in game. I am playing on the Jedi Covenant Server with MOSTLY imperial characters. You can add me as a friend and message me if you would like on the following characters: Tor'Nar (level 55 Imperial Operative) Vol'Shen (level 22 Sith Warrior) You can also message Shoelace (who is only on to record videos and prepare for them): Quancatt (level 22 Imperial Operative) I also plan to do a video or two on Swtor as a whole. But I will save that for another day. Until then... Have an excellent day

Thank goodness someone took the time to actually write this all out. People ask me about these kinds of things all the time. To quote an actual lawyer on this topic: "It's infringing. That's it. Silly article"