Fair Strides

Now I am SO tempted to remove mine for a week... SH, use your imagination, SH...

Exactly. It's the same thing with the Disciple's Holocron stuff. There's not enough to follow the definition of "restoration", and needs more of an "adaptation"...

Thanks, SH, for that shameless plug.*smiles dryly*

Well, I'm just concerned about the modules themselves. Taking all of this into consideration, would you guys say I can use these in TSL if I replace the majority of the textures i a major Hex-edit+reskin?

I can help on the TSLPatcher, Kainsorous. All you'd need to do is send me all the files, including the current changes.ini, and I could make it all ship-shape.

So, was the modelling custom, or was it already in K1's files? The answer's important, since it determines if I can run it through MDLOps for use in TSL...

It's actually a texture, oddly enough. Legal.tpc, and you can use Kotor Tool and Gimp to make the alpha layer(you'll see it in Gimp) completely black, then save it as a .tga in the override. Then the texture will be completely black/not there. You can do the same thing with leclogo.tpc.

I move for a vote of No Confidence in modder/moderator Sith Holocron! :D:D

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=201655

I could throw a hack into MDLOps for you that would output the hex data to a file, as you click on the node. The only downside is that you will have to click on each node and there's no safety against clicking the same node twice, so the output could get very screwy very fast...

If it helps, slogging through the ASCII for where the "frameend 0 0 0" was, I found it attached to the dummies for the where the thrusters are(the actual thruster deal with the flame and what not is controlled elsewhere), which were placed about six inches from the thrusters on the swoop. In the mine models... I can't remember what it was attached to, but I know it was a dummy. ... Maybe... maybe the frameend thing means when to destroy the element/not show it in-game?

I'm sorry, but the video is marked as private, so can't be seen... As an aside, did/have you done any of my mods? Some are a bit funny, some are just there for modders. In particular, if you do my dancing mod for Kotor 2, try using it on both genders, specifically Atton for males...

You'd need to decompile the model and mess around a little bit in GMax or 3DSMax. I can't really help in that department, sorry. Also, I like your signature. It really was a good book, wasn't it?

As an aside... Man, I took the time to make a dancing mod, okay?! Mind you, I accidentally used the armband on Atton during testing and fully expected the game to crash! Seeing Atton actually dancing pretty much had the same effect on my brain...

Yeah, I figured that.*sigh* My only guess on it is that it tells the game where to read the frames from next? But the 0 0 0 reminds me of X Y Z... And the issue isn't MDLOps, but NWMax. I don't think people want to go digging into that can of worms... I think if we take it out of the ASCII, import the mdl into GMax/3DSMax, work on it, export, and then add it back to the same positions, it should be fine. However, I have no idea...

...Maybe it's just the file size itself, but this could be a classic example of speed inequality between languages. It seem it'd be longer then a second to do it in Perl, though that could just be because I'm not too aware of the format and there's a big difference between the GFF files, say the .are and the .fac; the size and complexity are very different.

Well, the most current info, while I buy myself time to dig into the guts of MDLOps' source code(it is Perl, so I'm on my own here), The two sources of info on it I've found are by the maker of MDLOps himself: http://cchargin.home.comcast.net/~cchargin/kotor/mdl_info.html and some guy I don't know named Torlack(from 2002, so it's for NWN. You'll need to copy it and make an html document on your computer and then paste the info in there...): https://github.com/xoreos/xoreos-tools/blob/master/docs/specs/torlack/binmdl.html

Why thank you, Mandalore! It isn't an easy task, what VP and me are doing, even if I dug up the Official Bioware File Format pdfs they had up in the nwn section of their site. I found those by a fluke link that I thought would be a dead end... As it is, I've got the TLK figured out and shared that with VP. He did some C#/C++(Can't recall which) magic by turning the GFFs to XML like Tk102 did. I can't wait to see what tools we make! By the way, I encountered a piece of modelling that NWMax doesn't support... I tried decompiling the swoop bike model for K1 and the import got screwed up by a "frameend 0 0 0" piece of the ASCII file; the same exact thing happened with the models for the mines. Quanon, do you have any input on this anomaly?

"Yes, yes. Poor Smeagol, nobody likes Smeagol" ~~ Don't worry, LDR. If anything I'll hassle ya when you're not motivated enough. You and I are in for the long haul, man. And I like solving your problems! They help me speed up the already-early hair loss I copied from my Uncle Joe! I'm still a bit miffed by the bug we had on Battle of Duxn... and how simple the solution was.:|

Nice pun, HH! If I touch anything big like that, it's gonna be the Disciple's Holocrons... Disclaimer: Mention of affiliated projects or related works does not guarantee effort, pain, trauma, lifeblood, sweat or time will be invested. Please look elsewhere, Shark Tank. P.S: So, am I still dead to you?

Exploding ammo?! Why haven't I heard of this?!

TAKE THAT BACK!!! I think I'm in the same boat as Disbeliever here, guys. I take modding these games very seriously; I'm a diehard storyteller and will mourn a story left untold. When I first started modding at 15, I knew nothing compared to what I know now, about computers, modding, star wars, all of you wonderful, wonderful people(and how we still work together at the end of the day. ), and so much more. Modding these games was a turning point in my life; I learned scripting(after the long six-month off-and-on battle that I pulled through in the end), got into programming, updated KSE, shared my knowledge in little tidbits all over Holowan. I've not released that many mods(only 8 or so), but that's not important to me. I'd prefer helping someone realize their mod then work on my own, because I have a lack of self-confidence in my ability to create from nothing versus my ability to improve what's already there. Modding these games holds a soft spot in my life and has helped keep me stable these past two years. When I was having issues with my dad(and eventually had to leave my dad's house), modding was my escape, my way of maintaining sanity. This is special to me.;; Hehe, don't worry; I'll try to be more relaxed about modding. I can't make any promises though... And as to why your post worked as a pep talk: I like a challenge, and lacked a reason. I purposefully took it as a slap to the face and wanted to overcome it.

This might seem totally unrelated, SS, but I feel the need to say it: Thank you for this post. It has done everything that I could not. For months now I've been reluctant to face the truth: I've lost my passion for modding these games. I have at least 5 projects that I can name right now that are on my list. I've been unmotivated/depressed every time I have some free time to mod. I even started(am am still working on) a Jedi Holocron(basically like the NWN Lexicon, but for all of Kotor Modding; kind of an end-all approach to the search for collected modding knowledge) in an attempt to get motivated again. Your post has done just that. I'm revving at full throttle right now, like I haven't ran since 2012. I'm modding again and I'm not stopping until I get my projects out the door. I'm not even sure I'll stop then. Thanks, SS, for the unintended pep talk. By outlining what it takes to mod these games, the issues we run into doing so, and the obstacles we have to overcome, I know what I have to do, what qualifications I have to meet, to get the job done, and I'm determined not to fail again. As an aside, if someone can model and texture an area, I can do everything else you need to do it. I might take a few tries to get it to my expectations, but I am more than capable of getting the job done.