Masamune753

No problem, thank you for looking into it. Big shout out and thank you to @ebmar for looking over the project and helping me clean up the change.ini file after using KotorTool and DLGedit. In terms of updates, I was almost finished when I realized that T3-M4 was too much of an omission from this project. The concept I am currently testing: As a general callout, while I have included HK-47, T3-M4, Jolee, and Juhani over my original plans, I do not intend to make a sidequest reward for Bastila. She is the only character whose storyline is fully immersed into the overall gameplay and player choices, so in my opinion she doesn't need alteration. Edit: Successfully implemented my idea for T3-M4. Just need to package everything up.

Alright! I have an alpha version of this all together with TSLpatcher. Anyone interested in testing this out? Sent: ebmar [1/16/2022] StellarExile [1/16/2022] N-DReW25 [1/16/2022]

Thank you! Any help would be amazing. Right now I think I have fully fleshed out what I want to do, I just need to finalize all the pieces and then start working to understand TSLpatcher.

👨‍🔬Good news everyone! It looks like adding a row to baseitem.2da worked. I copied over the lightsaber row and deleted the required feat. Once I changed a custom lightsaber to that item type, everything else stayed the same but anyone could equip it. I tested it in battle and it worked as expected. Now all I need to do is create a generic feat for Canderous that I can restrict the item. I am debating whether it is worth it though, other mods that interact with his character might not play nice.

Digging into what the mod actually does, it looks like the feat this mod created was just a placeholder that prevented other people from putting on the disguise item the mod was built around needing. There is no reference to "Bastila's Disguise" in the mod now...checking the change log it looks they realized this new feat isn't necessary because Bastila already has a unique feat (Battle Meditation) to restrict items around.

Anyone more knowledgeable please correct me, but my understanding is that you can't really manipulate feats in K1. All the current feat effects are hardcoded. You can make new feats by manipulating the .2da files, but they won't do anything. The only use case is to use them to require the new feat for something else (ex. custom equipment/power). If you are suggesting that the feat effects will just work through the hide item equipped, that could work (that's how Juhani's camo feat works). The scripts you'd need are pretty easy, I can even send you mine as an example (they are based on the scripts from HK-47's repair challenges). To trigger them in the Ebon Hawk, you would need to add something with dialog (a character for example) that could trigger the individual scripts based on player choices. How to add characters, computer panels, or any other dialog trigger to someplace like the Ebon Hawk is beyond me, so you'd likely need to look through mods that do that and try to figure out the process.

@TK-664 Unfortunately that function doesn't exist for K1. Right now, there I have knowledge or can guess at 3 ways to have a non-Jedi character use a lightsaber (without it unequipping): Change the Feat.2da file to allow the class in question to acquire the feat (either at level up or automatically) [Thanks @DeathScepter!] Problem: My goal is to give this bonus to Canderous only. Anything I add to the soldier class would allow Carth to use it as well. This method also doesn't ping off of the completion of a side quest, which is the primary goal for this mod. Re-model/skin a custom vibroblade or create a new weapon type in the baseitem.2da that is essentially a lightsaber for Canderous to use exclusively Problem: The model + animations for lightsabers are likely more complex than what can just be copy pasted onto a vibroblade .uti plus model/texture files in override. If it is possible, I would need to learn a whole lot of stuff to try. Creating a new weapon-type, if it is as easy as appending baseitems.2da and not hardcoded, would be easier but involve new ground to cover. Create some kind of script that re-equips the lightsaber after it is unequipped between areas Problem: I have no idea how I would do this or if it is feasible.

I don't! I have been working on this on my own outside of the help I've had from all the great folks in this thread. @TK-664 I will test this out today and see if it works!

Updated my plan for this mod...it will be too hard to provide differentiated bonuses for each character using the "hide method" because only certain properties can be added to hide items. Instead, I am planning on the completion of a character's questline to have that character level up. This level up would stack on top of some of the hide bonuses I have already planned to help balance out the characters (Jedi vs. Non-jedi). Since levels are always useful, this relieves some of the pressure on the hide bonuses to feel meaningful enough. My only problem now...I still cannot get a non-Jedi character to carry a lightsaber. Does anyone else have insight on why, even with the lightsaber feats added through hide items, the lightsabers keep unequipping when moving between areas?

@DeathScepterThat is fascinating, would you be open to sharing the script you made for the gauntlet as an example? Note to the overall thread: I actually had a baby (#2) like 5 days before this post, so it 100% fell off of my radar.

View File Dual Wield Stun Batons - Diatium-Charged Escrima Hello! This is my first very first, and very basic, mod. Nothing in here that anyone else couldn't do with Kotor Tool, but I thought I would share it all the same. I am releasing this as a modder's resource because I am actually planning on including it in a larger mod I have planned later on. As such, to access this you will need to use the cheat "~giveitem dualstun_mas". Installation: Drop the files into your override folder and use the giveitem cheat to acquire them in game. Background: I always liked the idea of stun batons in KOTOR 1. They seem custom fit for scoundrels and should line up really nice opportunities for sneak attack. However, in the course of KOTOR's development it seems like the original combat devs could not get a handle on how to implement them. Opportunities for sneak attack are great, but you rarely fight alone with a non-jedi in KOTOR... With two turns of stun, if you land a stun effect the enemy is massacred. Lower the rate the stun can occur, you almost never see it happen. Dual wield stun batons and suddenly a jedi character can land 5 hits in a turn and the stun effect still hits too often. Only allow one stun baton at a time? With the other tweaks, it no longer makes sense to equip it on anyone. This all feels like a solvable problem that just wasn't worth the developer's time...the perfect opportunity for modders. This mod attempts to rectify the problem of stun batons by tweaking their stats and allowing for the much cooler implementation of dual wielding (I am thinking about you Nightwing). To do this, I reskinned a shortsword and added a bevy of stats and effects. These tweaks should make these stun batons useful for most of the game by allowing your scoundrel character to rely on their sneak attack to deal most of the damage. Since sneak attacks scale with you as you level, these should always be useful. Description: These stun batons are meant to be dual-wielded. They deal very little damage on their own and only have a 25% chance of even attempting to stun. They deal electrical damage, deal extra against droids to compensate for stun immunity, and have a small chance to deal some extra critical damage. Fully upgraded, these stun batons will pale in comparison to even mid-game weapons on their own. The DC is set to 18 so that there is a chance, however small, that even boss level enemies could fail their saves and provide an opening. These "Diatium-Charged Escrima" are meant to set up sneak attack. As such, I have restricted these to scoundrels by requiring the Scoundrel's luck feat. As this is a modder's resource, it is your choice how you'd want to implement them. In an unmodded game, these batons will primarily get use from Mission. Potentially some early use from the PC, but they will quickly be outpaced by lightsabers. A fully specced out Misson could dominate with these weapons, but she would need several different feats and/or use stealth to make full use. Future updates/Requests: Reskinning! The current texture/model is from the Bothan Stun Stick. I would love to recolor these black, but I have no knowledge/tools needed to change textures. Stretching out the model. Right now these are the stock model for stun batons, to fit as escrima they should be longer. Same as above, I have none of the tools or experience to make that happen right now. Permissions: Anyone can feel free to use this for anything you'd like! It is meant to be a very self contained way of implementing dual Stun Batons, so it should work with anything else. Credits/Thanks: Fred Tetra for their amazing KOTOR Tool @Thor110 for their general help and modding tutorials! Submitter Masamune753 Submitted 04/30/2021 Category Modder's Resources  

@TamerBill This script worked! Much appreciated. I had to do a lot of KotorTool rinse-and-repeat at doing seemingly the same thing with the armband, but eventually it worked. In the great spirit of learning by doing, I just learned that movement speed during stealth is fixed. Oh well, at least now I have a template for new versions/attempts.

As I went through testing this the last few days, the script based equipping and extra dialog worked great, but I really didn't like one of the bonuses I had planned. I have thus pivoted on one of the characters (I will list out details in the progress section in the OP) and part of my new direction will be to get back into the armband+script method. I created the script for the buff, added a new row in spells.2da by copy pasting the basic energy shield row and changing the name and pointing it to the new script, built out an armband edited off of KotorTool to activate the new effect and...it didn't work. One possibility is that this has something to do with the armband, but in game it seems like everything works up until the effect is supposed to take place. That suggests it is just flawed scripting on my part: void main(){ { effect eLink; { eLink = EffectMovementSpeedIncrease(99); ApplyEffectToObject(DURATION_TYPE_TEMPORARY, eLink, OBJECT_SELF, 600.0); } } } I edited this from the burst of speed force powers, but considering it didn't work I am wondering if there is some glaring error. I removed the reference to a spell target and changed that to OBJECT_SELF, added the eLink within the ApplyEffectToObject, and changed the duration to 10 min (600 sec). The script itself wouldn't compile without the above changes. Does anyone have any advice for how to edit this? Or even to just clarify why it is failing?

Thank you for the advice! I think I will look into this as its own concept, since I don't want a bunch of exploratory fiddling to bottleneck this mod. Obviously you can pursue this as well, that is your prerogative. If anyone else is inspired by this thread, I'd say just shout us out if anything comes of it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For anyone tracking this thread, I do have a question about the general etiquette for posting new mods. Right now, I have all the files necessary to make the mod happen in-game. I am planning to spend the night testing this as much as possible. If all goes well, I will start figuring out TSLpatcher to release a 1.0 version. However, the files I am using are already built off the dialog.tlk from [KotOR] Dialogue Fixes 4.0 and the K1CP 1.8.1 changes to Canderous and Carth's .dlg files, so it would likely be compatible with most people's games since most people use those mods (big assumption?). So, my question is whether it would be considered inappropriate to post a 0.50 version that just had those files without TSLpatcher? This would let me, potentially, hear feedback on the mod earlier so I could make changes before integrating TSLpatcher. I only ask because I imagine the TSLpatcher research will take a bit, since I have never used it and I will most likely need to make adjustments to this mod based on whether or not players have the dialogue fix and K1CP mods installed to ensure as much compatibility as possible.

Hey DarthParametric, I felt like my posts were already pretty longwinded, but I am happy to get more granular in detail. My overall goal is to provide a gameplay boost/capability for each non-jedi character as a reward for their side quests. For me, those boosts need to have the following characteristics: Consistent with the character Unique in how they affect gameplay Additive such that the player choice/ignorance wouldn't negate it It would be easy to just add a flat +5 to a different attribute for each character and be done with this, but I feel like that is pretty boring. Adding a bonus feat like Rapid Fire wouldn't work because players could easily choose those feats before finishing the questline, then the whole benefit would be lost. For Carth, my goal is trying to find any way for him to deal more damage that follows the characteristics listed above. The scenario would be something useful for every battle till the end of the game. Getting started, I had the idea of all of Carth's attacks having Keen+Massive Crit (thus stacking with the crit feats). However, increased crit range is an item property that cannot be applied at the attack action level outside the Crit feats. The armband and "Activate Item" property line of thought was born out of an attempt to create or simulate more critical hits (again, outside of just granting the Crit feats). When that seemed impossible, I wondered if the same Armband+Script method could instead activate an attack spell that would damage a target 5 times in a single round. If that is true, then the next step would be to associate that custom spell with an animation that looks like Carth firing his blasters. The goal isn't to just make him deal more damage with his regular attacks, that wouldn't be any different than 4-5 other buffs any character could do. 5 attacks per round would be unique for a non-jedi character and would fit a sort of gunslinger theme. More critical hits would fit a theme of being a veteran soldier who is just better at shooting. If it seems like I am leaping from idea to idea, that is because I am. I am engaging with this whole exercise as a way to learn how all of these systems work, so a lot of what I covered above I learned for the first time by trying it out. This is interesting. My thinking about being able to activate a hide item was based on Juhani's Eriadu Stealth Unit. However, that clearly is an exception since stealth is activated in a unique way. So, if the script simply has to be activated through an armband (which could be limited to Carth through a custom feat granted by the same hide item), could you have an armband that just fires off a modded script of Adv. Lightsaber throw? If that is true, could you just link it to a different set of animations that already exist (like firing blasters)? A modified version of Adv. lightsaber throw could also fit a gunslinger theme by appearing as though Carth is shooting at several targets all at once.

So, my hope with digging into the force power scripts was to reverse engineer how the game does force jump, since it is listed in the spells.2da. My plan was to use force jump as a reference for some kind of special attack that could be triggered by using the equipped hide item. Looking into the "k_inc_force.nss" file... I have a good frame of reference for what force powers look like, but the listings for force jump don't actually lead anywhere. My guess is they are hardcoded into the .exe with the rest of the attacking feats. As I was doing that I realized I was putting the cart before the horse by not checking whether the "activate item" property could be pinged off a hide item at all. When I tried, it looks like it does not. I assumed it could since that is the premise of the "whereami armband" found here. Looking at that file, it seems like this was something implemented in TSL. For anyone who has more insight, could something like the "whereami armband" be implemented in K1 at all? If so, could anyone help me with the qualifications necessary to make that work? My plan with the pinged script would be as follows (Spoilers for anyone who wants to be surprised by the companion bonuses):

Oof. Thanks for the callout, I can say that I looked ahead of time and just missed it but that almost makes it worse.

Is there anyone who could help me figure out how to decompile k_sp1_generic.ncs? I am using DeNCS and I have tried with both K1 and TSL's nwsscript.nss included in the folder. I still get a "Decompiling...k_sp1_generic.ncs: failure" error. For context, I am trying to learn how force powers are scripted so I can attempt to create some kind of effect that can be pinged off a hide item's "Active Item" property (thus pinging a script I have made in the impact script column of an updated spells.2da).

Amazing, thank you for the breakdown! I will give this a try and see if I can make this work broadly across the rest of K1 (and eventually TSL).

Got it. Definitely didn't think it would be universal, copy and pasting the same adjustment to 20 scripts doesn't seem like it would be a huge burden (it would be finding them all). My most direct question is whether I could use a formula to fill in the value for nBonusMarkup and nBonusMarkdown? Can GetSkillRank equal value X, and then can I use some transformation of X to equal nBonusMarkup/down?