Snigaroo

Your feelings on the matter aside, this is a thread in the mod request section reflecting a specific mod request which your project doesn't adhere to. This is the kind of project you should show off and discuss in a WIP thread of your own, rather than in a related but ultimately incompatible mod request.

Thanks for this Salk, I'll work on getting it integrated as soon as the next build revision comes 'round.

Well, I definitely wouldn't like to see Vitiate. I was thinking that it would be visions which were confused and inconsistent, such that you wouldn't even understand what you were seeing without the context of K2. In other words, it wouldn't be obvious that the tomb was even supposed to be showing you your past, present and future--it would seem like it was only showing strange relevatory visions, at least to those without knowledge that you are Revan. A battle scene from the Mandalorian Wars, a dialogue between a phantom figure and Malak, two mirror NPCs using your face, one LS and one DS, arguing wordlessly with one another; vague visions which don't mean anything on their own, but which imply something isn't quite right. Reiterating, though, that this is still a thought experiment. If somebody made this I'd test it, but I still think Kressh's tomb is best-served as a K2 exclusive.

The underlying concept sounds of interest to me (though obviously I'd need to see how it appeared ingame), but with no intent to insult I don't like many of the ancillary ideas--I prefer the Sith students in the robes used from JC's Back in Black and I especially don't like the idea of the cameos, both of the more commonplace NPCs but especially of Kreia. One of those (Lorso, given that she was after all Czerka) would be fine, but all of them together stretches coincidence past the breaking point and shatters the suspension of disbelief, in my view. Modders don't (and shouldn't) make mods for me, outside the times when a modder deliberately takes on a request here to do so--that's both expected and how I prefer it, so I'm not asking you to change your vision in any way. This is just to let you know that it sounds like the kind of project I probably wouldn't include in the builds. Well, that is indeed the problem as I mentioned in the original sting for the use of the Tomb. I'm in no way attached to using the tomb specifically, but at the same time I don't think that just because it still has loot in it in KOTOR 2 there's no way to use it in the original. If the PC enters the tomb and it's established that his visions are much stronger than the ones the Exile experienced because of Revan's much stronger connection to the Force, the entry to the tomb could be treated like a sort of bad trip where the PC is almost completely out of it through the entire tomb, and only regains sense when they leave, never taking anything significant with them. Though I reiterate, this is mainly just a thought exercise on my part to argue that even seemingly-unusable modules can probably have the gap bridged with some creative concept for their use. I think not using Kressh's tomb would probably be better.

I don't know why I didn't get a notification about this, sorry about that Salk--no worries on the timetable. We are looking at next build release for integration anyway, so there is plenty of time.

And I'm quite sure that "no good reason" doesn't amount to you willfully violating the rules of those sites and then, when informed of the violation, saying "oh your rules aren't real and shouldn't affect me." If you had been actually apologetic and provided proof of purchase, there would have been no issues. Instead, you chose to state that you refuse to adhere to the rule and find it foolish. Well, you can add another forum that's banned you to your cap--though I'm sure you won't learn a thing from it.

I don't think you need to worry, I've just learned not to test content outside of a full build revision. Last couple times I tried things went... badly.

I see it was uploaded, I've approved it and marked that request fulfilled. I'll leave it in the list until I'm able to test it next revision, but I don't expect any problems with integration. Thanks Salk!

Aha! That was what I was thinking of--I'm glad I'm not quite as out of my mind as I thought.

Wow, 0/2 eh? I must have really been spacing out when I was listening to their dialogue.

Ah, I just remember him talking about swoop stuff and misremembered him saying he had items in stock. If that's the case, I think only the Czerka clerk on Tatooine explicitly mentions owning parts, but I am much less expert in K1 than K2, so even having just replayed it I might not know about edge case dialogue where other merchants might mention swoop items.

I don't know how I missed this in my initial notes, but I have added one additional request that I forgot (Make T3 An Actual Character).

See that's what had me incredulous, differentiation of texture is definitely important but I also very much wanted his off-hand weapon to be shorter to make it visually clear that both weapons weren't tailor-made for him in the same set and were instead scavenged, and that's why I thought it wouldn't work as easily, because at best they'd need to be kept as vibrosword models to retain BioWare's edited statline. Part of me is glad that I had the right impression of what was possible in KOTOR terms, even if this now makes it more annoying to decide what to do.

I understand that part, I meant in the sense that it wouldn't be an issue to switch to a model of an entirely different type (vibroblade rather than vibrosword) while retaining the altered stats, without needing to tweak the stat line anyway to re-align the damage and ATK. That's the part I assumed would make KOTOR freak out if attempted.

Not in so many words, he just said it wasn't impossible like I made it out to be, and was pretty easily doable. I had assumed that retaining the same weapons would at best allow for the skin applied to them to be changed, not the model as well.