TATOOINE - THE LOST TEMPLE 1.1

I never thought this would ever be restored! Congratulations on the release. Is this compatible with K1CP, RCK1CP, and Sleheyron Story Mode? 

Cool! This seems out of nowhere! Have you tested with the community K1 build by chance? I wanna try this out but need to know if I should zero my install first.

Thanks!

This version is the first version of the mod, built only on the vanilla KotOR base game. I did use TSLPatcher to hopefully make combatibility less of a headache right out of the gate, but my plans for v1.2 are to make it explicitly compatible with K1R and the K1 Community Patch. However I will look into the K1 community build and see if that would be a better thing to focus on.

Assuming that the Patcher works as intended and amends the existing 2DA and JRL files, then the only thing that would break compatibility would be any mod that modifies the tat_m18ac (Eastern Dune Sea / Krayt Dragon Cave) module, or any mods creating new items that use the file names ii_belt_011.tga and iw_crhide_005.tga.

I have some ideas for other small additions to include as well, and will be recording a full walktrhough for YouTube soon, so stay posted for updates in the following months!

I am so excited for everyone to see this module restored into the main game! I have wanted to make this mod for many years, and finally got to a place over the past few months where I could devote enough time and attention to make it as complete and fleshed out as I could. I wanted to maintain player immersion and lore continuity as much as possible, and will continue with that philosophy for any future projects!

-JM

Is it not possible to put all those files in one package instead of having to download them all separately?

@Samriel thanks for pointing this out to me. I thought I uploaded the zip file, I will take a look at it.

A surprise new content KOTOR mod?!? This is like waking up Christmas morning to a tree full of presents!

Absolutely going to try out this mod ASAP! 
 

And congrats on restoring the Tatooine Temple module! I myself have tried doing that but just could never quite finish up the project. I’m thrilled to see someone has done it at last!

As someone who recently messed around with this module I have some questions about how you went about doing it, wanting to see if there is anything I could do to improve my mod:

Did you add a skybox or did you just fog it up? I honestly think that the fog workaround makes more sense considering it's a buried ruin.

How did you handle the invisible floors like the one in the room leading to the big circular room? I know when I implemented this module for my KOTOR 2 mod, I just copied a similar floor and made it fit. I'm not sure if there was a better way to handle that though.

Did you redo the walk meshes, or is the pillar room still really iffy? How I worked around it was placeables here and there to guide players away from problematic areas.

@vault13deathclaw I did increase the fog a bit, I didn't find the blank skybox too distracting in most areas, however I did add a texture for the cave entrance to make it feel more connected to the Krayt Dragon cave.

As for the walkmesh it is still a bit glitchy, I don't currently have the knowledge and skillset to try and repair it, the room with the large fallen pillar in the cave is I think the most broken room in the module, along with the actual pit chamber, both of which being the main areas where the player can easily fall through the floor and get stuck. 

But even with those issues I am still able to play through the whole mod and get through every room without it being a game breaking issue. 

But after a short break from the project I am going to start reaching out to other modders and see if anyone else would be interested in trying to patch up the walkmesh and fix some of the cave geometry.

6 minutes ago, JuniorModder said:

@vault13deathclaw I did increase the fog a bit, I didn't find the blank skybox too distracting in most areas, however I did add a texture for the cave entrance to make it feel more connected to the Krayt Dragon cave.

As for the walkmesh it is still a bit glitchy, I don't currently have the knowledge and skillset to try and repair it, the room with the large fallen pillar in the cave is I think the most broken room in the module, along with the actual pit chamber, both of which being the main areas where the player can easily fall through the floor and get stuck. 

But even with those issues I am still able to play through the whole mod and get through every room without it being a game breaking issue. 

But after a short break from the project I am going to start reaching out to other modders and see if anyone else would be interested in trying to patch up the walkmesh and fix some of the cave geometry.

I'm another modder. 

Once I try out this mod (looking forward to it!) I'll then see if I can fix up your walkmeshes a bit. Message me on Discord (sao1138 is my username there) and we can collaborate.

For anyone who gets stuck just know that you cannot progress through the entire temple without T3-M4 in the party as the terminals require him to deactivate the ray shields.

13 hours ago, JuniorModder said:

I have some ideas for other small additions to include as well, and will be recording a full walktrhough for YouTube soon, so stay posted for updates in the following months!

I am so excited for everyone to see this module restored into the main game! I have wanted to make this mod for many years, and finally got to a place over the past few months where I could devote enough time and attention to make it as complete and fleshed out as I could. I wanted to maintain player immersion and lore continuity as much as possible, and will continue with that philosophy for any future projects!

11 hours ago, SAO1138 said:

I'm another modder. 

 

Once I try out this mod (looking forward to it!) I'll then see if I can fix up your walkmeshes a bit. Message me on Discord (sao1138 is my username there) and we can collaborate.

I am also interested in enhancing this mod.

I've just gone through the mod and have made up a small list on how things could be improved to make it better.

13 hours ago, JuniorModder said:

I did add a texture for the cave entrance

Is this texture already in the vanilla game ? I assume you didnt make it yourself ? And if you actually did, would you mind if I used it for my own expansion ? I wanted to add a small bit of the module (caves part with rakatan style columns) to my endgame expansion.

Thanks

@The_Chaser_One I made it from the textures of the Krayt Dragon cave, you can use it. 
I know everyone views their mod and ownership differently but for me I only really care about the integrity of the story, dlgs, for this mod. I'm open to sharing and collaboration

@N-DReW25 Yes if anyone gets stumped about the Ancient Terminal , you need T3-M4 in your party AND the Power Cell item in your inventory.

I'm all ears! I will be returning to work on an update for this project again in a few weeks. And having help from the community would be great!

I am likely going to create a thread in the forums for us to discuss the features and fixes we want to implement, and I also joined the OpenKotor discord.

42 minutes ago, JuniorModder said:

@The_Chaser_One I made it from the textures of the Krayt Dragon cave, you can use it. 
I know everyone views their mod and ownership differently but for me I only really care about the integrity of the story, dlgs, for this mod. I'm open to sharing and collaboration

Alright that's nice, thanks. I'll credit you for the texture. And congrats again for the mod.

I tried the mod out and I think there are great ideas in there, but I’m sure it could be expanded more and there were some things that seemed odd (like the Rakata having a lightsaber). Above all the walkmeshes and broken models as well as possibly the light maps needs to be fixed because at times they made certain areas frustrating with the clipping.

The potential is there and this is a mod many of us have wanted to for a very long time. A few revisions may be necessary before it is a must install but it certainly has the capability of being the next groundbreaking project for KOTOR 1.

6 hours ago, StellarExile said:

I tried the mod out and I think there are great ideas in there, but I’m sure it could be expanded more and there were some things that seemed odd (like the Rakata having a lightsaber). Above all the walkmeshes and broken models as well as possibly the light maps needs to be fixed because at times they made certain areas frustrating with the clipping.

 

The potential is there and this is a mod many of us have wanted to for a very long time. A few revisions may be necessary before it is a must install but it certainly has the capability of being the next groundbreaking project for KOTOR 1.

It is lore-accurate for Rakata to use lightsabers (well, "Forcesabers").

I am open (eager even) to hearing everyone's thoughts and ideas regarding the story, lore details, any opinions they have for the mod.
My #1 goal and wish for this project is for it to be something that feels like it is authentic to the original game and further expands the Kotor universe.
And I have heard some people mention compatibility with Sleheyron in regards to the requirement of T3-M4 for the main quest. I originally wanted the player to be forced to use T3 because it would up the difficulty of the combat and prevent them from using higher power characters like Bastila.
But I think it is a minor change that wouldn't affect the experience much and compatibility with the main benchmark mods should be a priority.

So just keep all that mind, knowing this is the first version that will eventually be updated, but don't hesitate to tell me what you think ought be changed.

I hadn't considered that the Rakata character shouldn't be using a lightsaber, I am neutral about that, I do want him to be a high level force user and challenging boss. And I want his actual identity and backstory to remain ambiguous and up to interpretation.

So excited to see the comments! Thank you  JM

EDIT: I just installed KR1 and then Lost Temple afterwards and I can confirm that they are not fully compatible. Almost everything works but the changes made to appearance.2da conflict, resulting in some strange appearances for some of the NPCs. But thankfully I think there is a simple workaround for that.

40 minutes ago, JuniorModder said:

I am open (eager even) to hearing everyone's thoughts and ideas regarding the story, lore details, any opinions they have for the mod.
My #1 goal and wish for this project is for it to be something that feels like it is authentic to the original game and further expands the Kotor universe.
And I have heard some people mention compatibility with Sleheyron in regards to the requirement of T3-M4 for the main quest. I originally wanted the player to be forced to use T3 because it would up the difficulty of the combat and prevent them from using higher power characters like Bastila.
But I think it is a minor change that wouldn't affect the experience much and compatibility with the main benchmark mods should be a priority.

So just keep all that mind, knowing this is the first version that will eventually be updated, but don't hesitate to tell me what you think ought be changed.

I hadn't considered that the Rakata character shouldn't be using a lightsaber, I am neutral about that, I do want him to be a high level force user and challenging boss. And I want his actual identity and backstory to remain ambiguous and up to interpretation.

So excited to see the comments! Thank you  JM

EDIT: I just installed KR1 and then Lost Temple afterwards and I can confirm that they are not fully compatible. Almost everything works but the changes made to appearance.2da conflict, resulting in some strange appearances for some of the NPCs. But thankfully I think there is a simple workaround for that.

Sleheyron is a "benchmark mod?" Well dang, that's flattering.

Surely an easy fix is just make it so HK-47 can be used for the terminal? Or if you'd like I can send you over some scripts and audio lines for the Sleheyron companion that replaces T3, so that she can be used for the terminal as another option.

17 hours ago, SAO1138 said:

Sleheyron is a "benchmark mod?" Well dang, that's flattering.

Surely an easy fix is just make it so HK-47 can be used for the terminal? Or if you'd like I can send you over some scripts and audio lines for the Sleheyron companion that replaces T3, so that she can be used for the terminal as another option.

I just installed Tatooine- The Lost Temple after installing Sleheyron Story Mode. And you use K1R? I didn't think many used that anymore. Or did you mean K1CP and RC-K1CP? 

I guess all I can do is wait for a fix or update that would allow me to use this mod and Sleheyron together.

I was also curious about the speeder. Was it supposed to take the player anywhere else?

I would also love to help work on this mod if you’re willing to have others in the next revisions. We could definitely open a discord for it or host on the OpenKotOR server.

4 hours ago, StellarExile said:

I was also curious about the speeder. Was it supposed to take the player anywhere else?

There is a little bag in the Rancor room containing a belt item that activates the speeder, though said belt may be hidden underneath a dung heep placeable if my memory of my exploration of the Temple via Holocron Toolset is correct.

I do believe that this is meant to serve as an absolute bare bones attempt at a bonus side quest, hence why it's confusing in its vagueness (not throwing shade at JuniroModder ofc).

3 hours ago, N-DReW25 said:

There is a little bag in the Rancor room containing a belt item that activates the speeder, though said belt may be hidden underneath a dung heep placeable if my memory of my exploration of the Temple via Holocron Toolset is correct.

 

I do believe that this is meant to serve as an absolute bare bones attempt at a bonus side quest, hence why it's confusing in its vagueness (not throwing shade at JuniroModder ofc).

I actually brought HK with me to help me there, I expected he would need to translate for the Tusken. I definitely think this side quest could use an update, maybe involving a translation component, some additional speeder parts scattered throughout the temple, and maybe a reward on completion.

This mod is amazing by the way, what an amazing thing it is to actually play this module with fleshed out content and I really liked how the story worked. As far as the story goes, the only thing I thing I can think of that could benefit from an expansion of the top of my head would be giving that Rakatan droid a bigger role in the quest.

If I had any gripe with the mod, the one room with the Rancors is definitely a beginners trap. Carbonite turrets, T3 as one of your needed party members (thankfully you can switch party members in the module for combat), the hardest beast animals in the game, and Tatooine often being your first planet post Dantooine? That was a little rough. Made the fight with Calo Nord a few minutes earlier look like an absolute breeze.

Hmmm, in what order should this mod be installed for maximum compatibility with K1CP v1.10.0,  K1CP+RP Demo v0.13.0  and Sleheyron v3.3?

I heard that Community patch should be installed first but does anyone know the sequence order of the other mods?

40 minutes ago, Samriel said:

Hmmm, in what order should this mod be installed for maximum compatibility with K1CP v1.10.0,  K1CP+RP Demo v0.13.0  and Sleheyron v3.3?

I heard that Community patch should be installed first but does anyone know the sequence order of the other mods?

This version does away with the changes to the appearance.2da file, so if I'm not mistaken, the order shouldn't make a difference. But if you want to be safe I would install this one last.