VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted November 28, 2014 In case you haven't seen it yet: My faith has been restored somewhat, although I'm not very fond of that lightsaber... Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Sapiens 90 Posted November 28, 2014 I'm feeling the same as you, except I'm still bitter over the EU being abolished. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair Strides 508 Posted November 28, 2014 Eeeehhhhhh...... I don't know, something about a helmet-less Stormtrooper just gets me the wrong way, and not because he's black. They were known for the intimidation of anonymity... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted November 29, 2014 That's got to be one of my favorite parts of the trailer. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milestails 264 Posted November 29, 2014 Meh 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK-47 84 Posted November 29, 2014 Exclamation: I am so excited for it. The different saber, while different, isn't enough for me to care about it's look. Humorous Observation: It's probably some noob Imp playing as a Sith Assassin in the Madness skill tree and using a single bladed saber. You can tell because of the lightning charge on the blade. Addendum: And the HD Falcon. Whoa! Query: "Intimidation of anonymity"? Statement: I never heard that one before. The helmet was to show the cold emotionless face of the Empire. Eager Statement: I look forward to the trailers when they come out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephiles550 227 Posted November 29, 2014 Meh Summarized all of my thoughts into one word. There's nothing new here for me to be excited about! -We've got Stormies; OK. -We've got helmetless Stormies in the middle of a tatooione desert; fine. -We've got HD Tie fighter and Melenium Falcon CGI; alright. -We've got the return of the Rebel Alliance/New Republic; expected. What's there to be excited from this trailer, exactly? I think the only scene from this trailer which actually caused some excitement in me was the part were the X-wings were flying low above the water. It's the same old stuff we've seen before with one exception: the Sith warrior with the most impractical Saber in the universe. Yes, I know it's fantasy, and yes, I know that lightsabers like this have been done before in the past (which still does not excuse just how damn stupid they look), But the saber, both in the hilt and the blade's abnormal design, look unappealing regardless. This didn't lower my expectations for the movie in the slightest, but I don't see how people could raise their expectations of the movie from this trailer, either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted November 29, 2014 As someone who has been teetering back and forth on the issue, my faith is increased. It'll probably only take a bit of questionable news and I'll be worried again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted November 29, 2014 It's no understatement that there are a lot of changes in this version. However, some seemed both unnecessary and illogical. The speeder/skiff may be the best example of this. It certainly has an otherworldly look to it, but that look is still is that of a floating cereal box. So, then I have to ask, what practical purpose would something with maximum wind resistance, minumum visibility, and severely challenging maneuverability serve? My hugest problem with this approach is that Star Wars was founded almost entirely on technologically feasible and at least at some level logical principals. That artoo-ish unit.. just..how could something like that be mass produced? How in any universe would that be a logical or economical step? Even if this takes place thousands of years in the future, there is still a question of why there are x-wings and the millennium falcon in use. For me, to change things like this without actually thinking through your decisions is just change for change's sake. While obviously this is just a quick glance at what we're in store for and may not indicate what the final movie will be, this teaser has achieved the opposite of its intended effect for me. Obviously we shall see what happens when it's released.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaidon Jorn 195 Posted November 29, 2014 The little kid in me's head just exploded. I can't wait. Gonna be awesome!! I may die before December 2015, so I have no qualms with any of it. I hope I get to see it in the theatre one year from now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,471 Posted November 29, 2014 I was going to not watch but curiosity got the better of me. I'll second the "meh." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandalore 61 Posted November 29, 2014 Could be worse, could be much better. And that lightsaber looks completely impractical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZM90 100 Posted November 29, 2014 Haven't even watched it. I am only here to voice my hatred for what Di$ney did to the EU. From what I understand though is not only is Di$ney saying "Screw you!" to long time fans but to logic as well. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted November 29, 2014 You know, as an aside, conversely, I'm actually looking forward to Jurassic world based on their trailer, though.. It looks to not only ask the question of whether Hammond's idea was the right one, but also whether trying to commercialize it would inevitably lead to the results of the first film. Also the soundtrack pays homage to its predecessor while still keeping its own identity. Lastly, seeing a coalcanth in a JP film is abundantly cool. I do so hope that the level of acting and writing are at least on par with the first.. If so it could actually be the sequel the series deserves.. /aside Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK-47 84 Posted November 30, 2014 Haven't even watched it. I am only here to voice my hatred for what Di$ney did to the EU. From what I understand though is not only is Di$ney saying "Screw you!" to long time fans but to logic as well. I... This sums up what I see on these subjects anymore. All the time. Is this what this site has become? The subject is about the teaser and though we're to give our thoughts, this is all I see: "I hate this." "I hate that." "This is dumb because of such and such." "I haven't seen it because I live under a rock." Okay, maybe not that last one. But every time the subject is even mentioned, it's all hate. Without even seeing what's coming or remembering the fact that we always knew how things would go. If my words are hard for you to read, then it's long past time someone said them. ZM and anyone else who is mad about the whole E. U. thing, it's not just Disney. I've made reminders so many times: The E. U. is FAN BASE. Like it or not. Previously Cannon or not. Lucas has always said that it is separate from the movie cannon. ALWAYS. It was ALWAYS going to be made non cannon when Episode VII and beyond are made. I'm sure Lucas MIGHT have said something vaguely to the contrary a few years ago, but that would have been because the chances of anything else being done was very small and unlikely. Stop whining about something that we were informed would happen. I had hoped things would have turned around and there would have been some good encouraging posts made about it. But I was wrong. I feel like I'm in a room with angry people who don't like change, even when they know it's coming, and complain about it every chance they get, instead of just dealing with it and moving on finding the good things and talking about them. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how flawed it is. I'm sure I've riled someone up too, and I know someone is saying that mine "opinion" is flawed. But you know what? That's not the point! The point is I get tired of reading why someone hates something over and over and over again. I see these "discussion" threads and I should think, "Oh. I love that subject. I want to contribute what I like/liked. I wonder what others liked about it." Instead I think, "Oh no. Here we go again. I'm going to read, 'I hate Disney because thus and so.' 'They're completely ignoring the E. U. How shameful.' 'I think it's so stupid. Lucas should stop and die.' I don't want to even want to contribute my positive opinions because they will get buried in all the hate." "Why don't you stop reading these threads if you don't like it?" - user. Because Mr. User, the mature thing is to have a positive and uplifting environment with healthy discussion. And the more mature thing is for you to change your attitude about this. I can't even agree with some of the dislikes because it turns into outright hate. Then I feel silly because I don't hate it that much. It's really depressing guys. Disliking something is one thing. Posting it EVERY time the subject is brought up, that's something else. Regarding this thread, this is a teaser. Judging the movie off of it is like judging a book based off of one paragraph on 5 random pages. It's like trying to see the universe through a crack in a door. It's very limiting. I'm going to leave you with a quote that many seem to have forgotten, and the younger generation doesn't know about: "If you're wondering how he eats or breathes, and other science facts. Just repeat to yourself 'It's just a show. I should really just relax.'" /end rant It's no understatement that there are a lot of changes in this version. However, some seemed both unnecessary and illogical. The speeder/skiff may be the best example of this. It certainly has an otherworldly look to it, but that look is still is that of a floating cereal box. So, then I have to ask, what practical purpose would something with maximum wind resistance, minumum visibility, and severely challenging maneuverability serve? My hugest problem with this approach is that Star Wars was founded almost entirely on technologically feasible and at least at some level logical principals. That artoo-ish unit.. just..how could something like that be mass produced? How in any universe would that be a logical or economical step? Even if this takes place thousands of years in the future, there is still a question of why there are x-wings and the millennium falcon in use. For me, to change things like this without actually thinking through your decisions is just change for change's sake. While obviously this is just a quick glance at what we're in store for and may not indicate what the final movie will be, this teaser has achieved the opposite of its intended effect for me. Obviously we shall see what happens when it's released.. Contemplative: I'm wondering that about the speeder too. It's hard telling. And the Ar-too looking unit as well. Observation: It looks like a soccer ball with a droid's head on it. Theory: It could be a unique droid. Something that one character made. That I can see. Though for what purpose is beyond me. Reminder: Don't forget that it is Science Fiction. They can do what they want. I love Star Wars because it was founded almost entirely on technologically feasible and at least at some level logical principals. But to be honest, they are allowed to do things that are science fiction. Even if it seems silly for that universe. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,471 Posted November 30, 2014 HK-47 - please, PLEASE stop using "cannon" when it should be "canon" Addition: The subject is about the teaser trailer and not the movie. The subject isn't about canon so that should be discussed elsewhere - in a thread about EU being removed from canon. As the thread is about the trailer, people should be able to discuss the trailer how it does or does not appeal to them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaidon Jorn 195 Posted November 30, 2014 I feel like I'm in a room with angry people who don't like change, That's because that's exactly what it is... HK-47 - please, PLEASE stop using "cannon" when it should be "canon" THAT, is what you have to say about his post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted November 30, 2014 WHAT HAVE I CREATED? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,471 Posted November 30, 2014 THAT, is what you have to say about his post?I didn't want to type the whole thing out on my phone which is when I first saw the whole rant. I went for the joke first then went back in the house to type the rest. Your message and my update were being worked on at the same time. To bring down the anger, maybe we should all relax . . . and watch the Lego version of the teaser trailer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted November 30, 2014 @HK In regards to your aside, while I respect your opinion of having a positive environment, it is simply a logical misstep to assume that all negative feedback is an indicator of a negative one. It is perfectly healthy for people to disagree, and it is in fact better for the community as a whole to have contrasting beliefs or conclusions. Secondly, I feel I must correct you in that the EU is not a "fanbase" exclusively nor is it ever created exclusively by the fans. It is LICENSED by lucasarts/publishing, and whether George likes it or not, he reviewed and consented to all of their story decisions before they were published.. The people he insulted and offended were primarily followers of his company's published work which after years of (admittedly grudgingly) allowing it to exist, he just decided to go against his own word because he could. Yes, he may have had the right, but his ethics were less than admirable. So yeah folks are a bit ticked because first of all, frankly some of the EU stuff is worlds better, and Disney/Hollywood is just running roughshod over a really cool universe to make more money off of us, the fans who actually care about it.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milestails 264 Posted November 30, 2014 LOL at that Lego trailer! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Sapiens 90 Posted November 30, 2014 Wrapping up how I feel about this. I really like the movie, the trailer looks cool, but while I watch it, I think of the universe they're rewriting, which makes the experience bitter sweet. Do I agree with Disney/LF on this decision, no. However I see the reasons why they did what they did. But we're past the point of debating the merit of cette decision. It's done. I'm not happy, but I'm past the point of anger. From now on the story will be more controlled, is this good or bad? No one can say for sure yet how this will play out. I feel numb towards star wars, whereas I once loved it. But I don't think it's fair to compare decades of the star wars universe with it's vast amount of content to a trailer less than 5 minutes long of the new story. So while I no longer love star wars, and I feel numb towards it all, I'll give it the chance to grow on me again. It's not like the old universe has ceased to exist, they're just done telling its story. No doubt many EU settings and themes will appear again. How this new story will grow and expand is as of yet unknown, but I'll give it a chance to grow on me, the minds behind our star wars didn't die with it, I'm interested to see how they'll shape the new one. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,471 Posted November 30, 2014 No more EU discussion in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted November 30, 2014 I agree with Santa. I'm interested to hear what everyone else thinks about the trailer. It is indeed intriguing (for either good or ill) if at least in concept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted November 30, 2014 Here's something a little closer to home 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites