Revenge of Revan 1.0.0

It's here.

OMG IVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS: i played the demo in almost 10 years ago- i cant believe its acutally been realeased! IM SO EXCITED! thank you logan for all your hard work! im downloading now and cANNOT WAIT to play it <3

Glad to see the project I've been following since the demo has made so much progress. Simply beautiful.
Thank you so much for your work, Logan and the team.

OMG IT'S HAPPENING 

Finally. Congratulations on releasing this project! Can't wait to play.

Congratulations! Oh and I noticed there's four columns behind the KOTOR logo. Is it intended to be KOTOR IV? If so, where's KOTOR III? 

34 minutes ago, JasonRyder said:

I noticed there's four columns behind the KOTOR logo

You're looking at the positive space. The III is the negative space (the cutouts).

4 hours ago, JasonRyder said:

Congratulations! Oh and I noticed there's four columns behind the KOTOR logo. Is it intended to be KOTOR IV? If so, where's KOTOR III? 

As DP has already pointed out, the III is hidden amongst the symbol behind the Kotor logo. The reason it looks like this is because our main graphics artist, RedRob41, wanted the ROR logo to imply that the mod is Kotor III because it obviously isn't, Kotor III would've been an official video game whilst this is just a fan-fiction video game mod.

@Nm6k

You posted some questions to be answered in the Reviews, since I can't access the Reviews I shall answer some of them here to the best of my ability.

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1.While I do miss parts of the old demo soundtrack especially the combat track (though I think I hear parts of it in one of the new ambient tracks) the new music is very good too.

I believe the music track should be the same as it was in the Demo, though in areas where we removed combat like the Jedi Temple & the City you can't hear that music as there is no combat though we may move those missing tracks to other planets potentially.

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3. It would be nice once they are balance to the dev's team likeing that the species effects are listed somewhere outside the game.

The current species stats will be listed in the second Dev Diary that will be posted in the ROR Forum's here on Deadlystream.

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4. I think there should be a side quest or two on Coruscant maybe serving as a quick optional tutorial to new or old players who haven't played in a while 

Whilst something akin to a tutorial level could be added, it'll probably be added at a later date. I'm sure players wouldn't want an Episode to be delayed because we're too busy making a tutorial level for mechanics we already know.

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6. I'm happy that you kept in the choice about the pc homeworld from the old demo however small of a thing it is. 

Whilst it wasn't going to be removed, it was at one point in the early 2020s moved to Nar Shaddaa before being moved back.

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7. I had a bit of a bug with the Exile gender. I picked female and Bao-Dur kept calling the Exile him.

Thank you for this report, can you tell me where exactly this occurred (and use a spoiler box like I've used below)

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9. There was some hard fights though nothing that took me more then two tries. I was playing on difficult so I view this as a good thing. Both KOTOR were a bit too easy even on the highest difficulty. I have not tried the new difficulty options yet

That was intentional, after looking at the TJM's and EoD mods I wanted the player's who play ROR to use the same sort of strategy you're given in the Kotor games.

Whilst we can't yet add repairable droids or computer terminals, we did add plenty of opportunities to use Stealth, Grenades, Land Mines, Masks, and special blaster types to your advantage throughout Episode One with the opportunity to sell and purchase better gear in-between sections.

3 hours ago, N-DReW25 said:

@Nm6k

 

Thank you for this report, can you tell me where exactly this occurred (and use a spoiler box like I've used below)

 

Spoilers!!
Okay so i finished EP 1 and its great. Pretty linear, however, theres a lot of bugs. I played canon, Revan was a man with dark side ending, The exile was a woman with dark side ending.
1. The jedi master actually has the "you look fine to me" and "okay that should do it" dialogue flipped (when you ask him to heal you). I also did not see any healing effects from this even when i was low on hp. In fact im willing to say it increased my force points.
2. There are numerous spelling mistakes throughout the whole game
3. On numerous occasions Revan and The Exile get misgendered. It happened once, that in the same dialogue their pronoouns changed
4. When coming back from the king of corellia and going to find the bunker, Bao-dur still seems to have the old dialogue where he says smth along the lines of "If you dont have the [ship stuff] dont come back". Im pretty sure he didnt refer to the hard drives 
5. The epilogue cutscene freezes, particularly at the end of it and when the male sith master appears for the first time.

General feedback? This mod is actually pretty nice. I think that the story so far makes well enough sense. I think there should be much much more itneraction that give light/dark side points (I was doing a dark side playthrough, and managed to only ever get light points, and it happened once :/) It also throws me off a little that the jedi master does not level up, but it does actually make sense I guess. The murder mystery aspect was pretty well done, and the Sith lords are elusive enough. Im not sure whether it is a good idea to reveal that so many sith exist in the epilogue, considering for the while time we saw 2 people, who werent confirmed to be sith. Otherwise, the dialogue is great. I'd have to replay it to check if every person doesnt actually talk the same but i didnt have an issue with that on my first playthrough. Im not sure if onderon was a good pick for corellia. Iirc from swtor corellia reminded me more of coursant, and planets like taris or nar shadda wouldve fit it more, but i might be making stuff up over here.
9/10
Msg me if you need smth more. Very nice mod and its going in great direction. Im open to further testing of it or providing more info of mistakes here and there.

23 minutes ago, Justplayinyk said:

light/dark side points (I was doing a dark side playthrough, and managed to only ever get light points, and it happened once :/)

They said they are mostly going to be holding off on alignment points until a certain event latter (you might know what it is if you played the old demo) 

6 minutes ago, Nm6k said:

They said they are mostly going to be holding off on alignment points until a certain event latter (you might know what it is if you played the old demo)

Never played the demo, should I? still the lack of point feels strange and it makes the mod feel somewhat incomplete. Makes it seem it doesnt matter what you do. You can be nice or evil and nothing happens. That was disappointing

6 minutes ago, Justplayinyk said:

Never played the demo, should I?

Nah but there are a few let's plays of it on youtube if you are curious but

Just now, Nm6k said:

Nah but there are a few let's plays of it on youtube if you are curious

I dont wanna spoiler myself anything but from the way you talk about it in these few sentences makes it seem as if a large part of the story was actually finished in the demo. how does that work? How long ago was the demo released and how much of the story does it deliver?

5 minutes ago, Justplayinyk said:

if a large part of the story was actually finished in the demo.

It was not, just that a event that happened in the demo (which was also the Jedi Temple and Corellia but quite a bit of the plot is different) is now going to happen latter in the story and that change makes it a bit awkward to get DS points right now. The old demo came out in 2011

4 minutes ago, Justplayinyk said:

I dont wanna spoiler myself anything but from the way you talk about it in these few sentences makes it seem as if a large part of the story was actually finished in the demo. how does that work? How long ago was the demo released and how much of the story does it deliver?

If you don't want spoilers, I would say don't watch the demo/don't play the demo. There are things changed from the demo.

You will get more options for LS and DS points in the next Episode. 

1 minute ago, Logan23 said:

You will get more options for LS and DS points in the next Episode. 

Thats great. Still, a couple of hours of gameplay with some points only in the place where i least expected it threw me off. I think you should add it in some places for the same of it. I believe that makes the experience better, like Peragus II in Kotor2 where Kreia and atton dialogue both have chances for points.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

Spoilers!!
Okay so i finished EP 1 and its great. Pretty linear, however, theres a lot of bugs. I played canon, Revan was a man with dark side ending, The exile was a woman with dark side ending.

Feel free to report these bugs, it's the only way they're going to get fixed.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

1. The jedi master actually has the "you look fine to me" and "okay that should do it" dialogue flipped (when you ask him to heal you). I also did not see any healing effects from this even when i was low on hp. In fact im willing to say it increased my force points.

I'll have to have a look at this, though I do believe there is the option to meditate with Drayen to heal your force points so there's that.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

2. There are numerous spelling mistakes throughout the whole game

I would like to stress that this was caused not by our inability to spell but due to the inconvenient modding tool we use to write the dialogues.

That little box with the "Leave me alone - I have nothing to say to you" is where the dialogue is written, and when it comes to writing big dialogue trees it can sometimes take hours to do and it is all done in that tiny box. So it's not a matter of "I can't spell", it's a matter of "I literally couldn't see the spelling mistake to begin with".

So please, feel free to list all of the spelling mistakes and typos you found and we'll go about fixing them.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

3. On numerous occasions Revan and The Exile get misgendered. It happened once, that in the same dialogue their pronoouns changed

Thank you, could you please tell us where Revan and the Exile got misgendered so that we can fix it?

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

4. When coming back from the king of corellia and going to find the bunker, Bao-dur still seems to have the old dialogue where he says smth along the lines of "If you dont have the [ship stuff] dont come back". Im pretty sure he didnt refer to the hard drives 

I do believe there is a conditional that isn't firing meaning players like you are still getting the pre-Tyrena crash site dialogue after you've passed that part of the mod.

This shall be fixed.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

5. The epilogue cutscene freezes, particularly at the end of it and when the male sith master appears for the first time.

I did notice a lag spike when the Sith Master spawns in. I'm personally not sure what causes it though I'm sure if Logan can find a solution to reduce the lag he'll implement it.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

I think there should be much much more itneraction that give light/dark side points (I was doing a dark side playthrough, and managed to only ever get light points, and it happened once :/)

As Logan and the others have said, he wants to hold off on the player getting Dark Side points for the duration of the time you're with Master Drayen and once you're outside of his care then you'll be given free reign to go Dark Side.

Until that time comes, we are considering the player feedback we are getting. When we release new Episodes, we do plan to update the previous Episodes with any new content and/or revisions that would improve those planets. Once the mod progresses beyond Drayen, we may consider going back and adding Dark Side points for the duration that you're with Drayen - though I believe if we were to do that there'd be double the opportunities for Light Side points then there would be Dark Side points, that means there might be 8 Dark Side points and 12 Light Side points for example.

If we have that system as described above, a Dark Side player like you can go the Dark Side path whilst a player playing randomly is unlikely to fall to the Dark Side unintentionally and would remain neutral. There'll also be too few Dark Side points to turn into a grey zombie in front of Drayen.

Do note that Logan could swoop in and say no to anything I say, but as I've already said, player feedback in the future might be what it takes to change his mind. I can easily see the mod being halfway complete and then realizing "Oh shit, it's actually impossible to go 100% Dark Side even if you do all the Dark Side options. Let's go back and add some Dark Side options."

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

It also throws me off a little that the jedi master does not level up, but it does actually make sense I guess.

Master Drayen is a higher level to reflect his status as your Master, since he will still be with you in Episode Two it is entirely possible he'll level up on Nar Shaddaa.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

and the Sith lords are elusive enough. Im not sure whether it is a good idea to reveal that so many sith exist in the epilogue, considering for the while time we saw 2 people, who werent confirmed to be sith.

Truth be told, I set it up like that for three reasons.

1) It justifies having the Torguta on the main menu (She was on the main menu in the Demo but made no appearance).

2) The Sith Cyborg was going to appear in a cameo like just this in Episode Two, but if we released Episode One without the Sith Cyborg I was afraid people would dig into the mod files, find his files, and when Episode Two came along the reveal wouldn't be as great because people already found his files.

3) Assuming worse comes to worse and Logan permanently disappears and Episode Two never comes out at least you guys got to see these awesome characters (this isn't going to happen but obviously before Episode One's release the optimism wasn't as great as it is today).

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

Im not sure if onderon was a good pick for corellia. Iirc from swtor corellia reminded me more of coursant, and planets like taris or nar shadda wouldve fit it more, but i might be making stuff up over here.

You don't have to do this, but if you were to watch the ROR Demo on YouTube you will know how much work we've put into Episode One to make sure Corellia doesn't feel like Onderon. Trust me, Demo Corellia felt so much like Onderon you wouldn't be surprised if General Vaklu made an appearance.

10 hours ago, Justplayinyk said:

Msg me if you need smth more. Very nice mod and its going in great direction. Im open to further testing of it or providing more info of mistakes here and there.

If you'd like to give an in-depth bug report, feel free to PM one of us and we'll see about fixing the bugs you've found.