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3 pointsHad these games been written in the 80s or 90s this would have never happened. The spirit was different then. More open ended because that was when what I called the golden age of role playing and infinite variations was the rule. One of the writers of the Dragonlance series stated that he didn't care that if some of the stories that spun out of the original Dragon Lance books conflicted, because that is what mythology and classic lore has always been like, some accounts don't line up with others. Dungeons and Dragons and other table top rpgs focused on the player's experience and their stories. Today you have people who want to be told what the characters are, the characters and their backgrounds written out for them. People who wanted Revan written for them actually used the word "closure" in wanting to know what happened to Revan. So the corporate powers that be indulged them. Kevin James Anderson, one of the authors of Tales of the Jedi, even had a suggestion through one of the characters of the Jedi Academy that the time after the Golden Age of the Sith be left largely unknown, or be just legends- funny how Disney is doing that, however, I do not like the idea of these movies they are making of the Old Republic. What else are they going to ruin? What's worse you got those who dogmatically cling to lore like it is linear, not a rich tapestry, are going to love the movies and argue that mods and viewpoints must align with the lore, etc. Remember the Dragon Broke that came out of Morrowind? That was the old guard who respected variations of lore going out while the new guard of linear continuity stepped in. That's why there's hints that Morrowind was supposed to be have at least two different paths, siding with the Tribunal, or with Dagoth Ur. You were supposed to be able to speak with the Heartwights - and they were telling you it wasn't too late to change your mind and join them instead. That's how Mad God was able to write his mod and work so well. And today we have Revan who, I heard, was made to go dark side again in the MMO and so he could be killed, and the Exile, his number one fangirl getting stabbed in the back so she could be a ghost cheer leader for poor Revan carrying on a mental battle with the so called emperor of the retconned(yes) Sith Empire. (KJA meant for the new Sith Empire be the one re-established by Exar Kun, not something lurking in the background somewhere.) K1 and K2 borrowed heavily from the Tales of the Jedi. K1 was supposed to be a sequel. "Dev's intentions" of a Sith Empire that survived Marka Ragnos is retcon to the Tales of the Jedi. That's why I am cautious of asking what did the character do during this time, someone will be all to glad to fill that in for everyone. My Exile would laugh at the "canon" version. Right, like Revan would be stupid enough to go off by himself deep into no where. And I'll just tag alone and be his cheering squad. What spice are you chewing? Yeah, he's a smart ass, too. He keeps Visas Mar around. I much prefer the non-restored ending of K2, and the purpose of rebuilding the Jedi Order. Or Sith. It has a greater purpose, imo, than just sending the Exile off to Revan to fight some Sith Empire. There's scarier stuff out there. And Kreia's sacrifice would better serve the more noble purpose of restrarting a new Force wielding order. I say have fun with what the Exile was doing during those years of wandering, with only the guidelines that it didn't involve the Force, and ending up on the Harbinger on the way to Telos for the Argricultural Corps.
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3 pointsRim support has been added and I've been working hard on overhauling the UI. I think I will hold off on releasing a beta until I get a 2da and GFF editor added in. Getting close to that though!
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2 pointsYeah I agree. This is one of the reasons I prefer the Exile over Revan. The last five years of the Exile's life is a mystery, and we get to fill it in with whatever we want. With K1 it was fine until the revelation which is one of my favorite moments in any media. But before that our character could have done anything before the events of K1. But after the revelation you are a given a predefined backstory. That's why I hate when video game companies canonize our favorite characters. They are never what we envisioned. Like the Exile my favorite KOTOR protagonist. In my head canon he is smart ass cocky Jedi. Then the official "canon" made him a Revan cheerleader who died like a chump, and has been keeping Revan alive for the past 300 years. Also don't get me started with what they did with Revan. They made him leave his pregnant wife behind while going on a crusade, and letting her and her child eventually die without knowing his fate. This is why I ignore SWTOR canon. In my canon Revan and the Exile went to the Outer Rim kicked the unknown enemy's ass and came back to Republic space to take care of their obligations. Revan reunited with Bastila and got to see his child. The Exile hooked up with Briana had kids, and along with Atton and the rest of the 'Lost Jedi' rebuilt the Order. That's why I like 'The Elder Scrolls' series. They never say what the fate of the previous hero was. It's like with the Dragon Age games. Some fans want the Grey Warden who was the hero of the first and best game of the series canonized, and I tell them "Oh no they don't." Don't they remember Revan, and although I never played them but know their fate Shepard from the Mass Effect series?
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1 pointAh, well spotted. I'll fix it in the next version, which already has something else on the to-do list.
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1 pointYep, don't know why "fans" today want everything written out for them, instead of using their own imagination and filling in the blanks. I heard of the Dragonlance series but never read any of them. I think when I was in High School I had a copy of one don't remember. Yeah that's what I like about D&D even though if I don't know every single rule. I always wanted a movie or tv series based on the Old Republic not necessarily based on the games, but I wanted one done by George Lucas, and do not want Disney touching that era which according to news they are. Ah Morrowind one of my top all time favorite rpgs. How I really wanted to join Dagoth Ur, slay the Tribunal and kick out the Empire. I remember the first time my character contracted the disease. I went straight to Red Mountain cause Dagoth Gares told me so, and after having to cheat to get by the higher level enemies Dagoth Ur literally said "Nerevar, what are you doing here?" "You do not have the tools." That was when it was spoiled to me that the character was the Nerevarine. But yeah I agree in rpg's there should always be multiple paths to accomplish goals. That's why I love the KOTOR games. Two paths light or dark. But yeah if by the Dragon Break you mean when the Morrowind fans clashed with the old Daggerfall fans than yeah I remember. The same thing happen when Oblivion came out. In the MMO Darth Revan is split from what I understand. Physically he is darkside, spiritually he is lightside. And Meetra is keeping him alive by healing constantly healing him. Also I heard HK-47 is in the game he protects Revan. I played a little of the MMO but never made it that far. So I never saw any of that. But yeah I heard that the longtime fans of the Baldur's Gate games hated it when BioWare canonized their characters. See? Die hard rpg fans do not want this. I didn't care if they never said what happened to Revan or the Exile, if not make a direct sequel I'd rather use my imagination. My mod will be a KOTOR fan's vision of what may have happened. Oh yeah and in my story both Revan and the Exile don't immediately leave after the first two games end. They both have to take care of business first. After reading Tales of the Jedi for the first time a couple of months ago. I did some research and the original KOTOR was going to be based on the comics, but BioWare could not get permission to use characters like Exar, Ulic, or Nomi. That's why Revan is so much like Exar, and Bastila is somewhat like Nomi what with the Battle Meditation. And of course the Exile being cut off from the Force was taken from Ulic. In both K1 and K2 they mention Exar, Ulic, and Nomi by name. That Jedi master on Nar Shaddaa in K2 says the Jedi Council never took responsibility for Exar, Ulic, Revan, Malak, and the Exile. So I like how they all tie in. Man the SWTOR canon made Revan a dumbass. Like I said before in my mod both Revan and the Exile have to take care of stuff. Like for example rebuilding the Jedi Temple if you were a lighside Exile. Never seen the restored ending for K2. I love that game just as is all broken and incomplete. The restored content is a nice bonus and I do eventually someday what to play through it. But not anytime soon. Right now I am busy with the mod. After reading Tales of the Jedi I really liked Ulic's story, and how after he was cut off from the Force he exiled himself to an uninhabited planet, to reflect on his war crimes. I imagine the Exile could have followed a similar path. Or not he could have made independent porn lol. But I like your idea. That's why I prefer characters to be non canonized like in K2. Revan could be lightside or darkside, male or female. It was up to the player. That's how it should be.
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1 pointWhy not use juhani's build as a starting point for the falleen one? If you looked at Savan (Xizor's niece) she had some similarity, though there were differences it is true: but you'd have the top knot, and the eyes as well, would just be a matter of the clothing too, course could always use a cathar as well if you wanted to add more diversity, or an ubese as well, they do have the models for that as well. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/1/11/Savan_-_SWGTCG.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131008210435
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1 pointProbably odd jobs and the such. Maybe a merc depending on the character. An enforcer. Ran a backwater world bar. Be a tour guide to core world denizens on wild planets. A miner. A travelling chef. A field worker or farm laborer - which eventually leads to the destination of Telos. This is the kind of thing I like to fill in myself, instead of having it defined for me. I don't like it when everything has to be filled in. Next thing we know we'll have some novel or comic about Meetra Surik (or whatever the name is) the day laborer who volunteered to go to Telos to grow muja fruit. The one defining point, though, is that whatever it was the Exile did during that time, it had absolutely noting to do with the Jedi/Sith, or the Force. My Exile probably kicked back in some back water world and read everything in whatever library. Sometimes went fishing. Hunting. Maybe some skilled labor. Moved on when he got bored. Finally signed on for a job on Telos just to see how much Malak screwed up that world.
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