jc2 581 Posted March 14, 2017 I've always adored the Neo-Crusader's Mandalorian armor. But from DeadMan's mod, I know some people didn't quite like them. Why? Was it the colors? Was it the lack of Mando'a emblems? Was it the lack of variety in armor pieces, as several "legends" star wars books wrote of? Were the helmets lame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted March 14, 2017 What mod are you even talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc2 581 Posted March 14, 2017 For tsl, the following mod done by DeadMan > http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/63-movie-mandalorians/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haveayap 127 Posted March 14, 2017 For tsl, the following mod done by DeadMan > http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/63-movie-mandalorians/ I liked them but the mod always broke my game due to some incompatibility issue with another mod (Especially on Dxun in the battle of Dxun or whatever its called). It became really infuriating so I stopped using it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc2 581 Posted March 14, 2017 I liked them but the mod always broke my game due to some incompatibility issue with another mod (Especially on Dxun in the battle of Dxun or whatever its called). It became really infuriating so I stopped using it That's too bad, I've haven't yet installed his mod yet. But what mod did you use after that for the Mandalorians? Or did you keep them as they were? What I'm really asking is, how do you like the vanilla looking Mandalorians? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted March 15, 2017 My problem is because the models themselves are Concord Dawn era Mandalorians which looks odd with the Kotor motif. The Neo Crusaders are the same models we see in Kotor, and the Crusaders look like a cross between them and the Deathwatch. http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/Mandalorian_Armors.jpg (Crusader on Left and Neo Crusader in Center) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc2 581 Posted March 15, 2017 My problem is because the models themselves are Concord Dawn era Mandalorians which looks odd with the Kotor motif. The Neo Crusaders are the same models we see in Kotor, and the Crusaders look like a cross between them and the Deathwatch. http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/Mandalorian_Armors.jpg (Crusader on Left and Neo Crusader in Center) Interesting, I always assumed the Neo-Crusader armor was built for the human species that joined Mandalore, while the Crusader armor was given largely to the Taung Warriors. I might have read this somewhere. It would be neat if some modder made the Crusader armor thought. ^^ Btw, what's the one on the right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malkior 476 Posted March 15, 2017 Interesting, I always assumed the Neo-Crusader armor was built for the human species that joined Mandalore, while the Crusader armor was given largely to the Taung Warriors. I might have read this somewhere. It would be neat if some modder made the Crusader armor thought. ^^ Btw, what's the one on the right? I just looked it up, and it turns out the one on the right is a Deathwatch trooper. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Watch/Legends Also there are a few decent examples of Crusader armor in concept art and cosplay online, if anyone was planning on making a character model of them. ..Although the cosplay ones look a bit goofy... :| 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N-DReW25 1,320 Posted March 15, 2017 I think why people hated the Kotor Mandalorians was because their appearance wasn't near as cool as Jango Fett and Boba Fett's armor in the movies. Kotor came out in 2003 a year after episode 2 and they probably found the Kotor Mandalorian Armor as non-intimidating at all when compared to Jango Fett's armor that had a Jet Pack combined with a rocket pack, a blade and a rope like in the movies. I personally feel like they should be a tad skinnier and have a Jetpack each. Maybe in Aperion or a new kotor rpg by disney there could be some awesome jet pack battles in the sky. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc2 581 Posted March 15, 2017 I think why people hated the Kotor Mandalorians was because their appearance wasn't near as cool as Jango Fett and Boba Fett's armor in the movies. Kotor came out in 2003 a year after episode 2 and they probably found the Kotor Mandalorian Armor as non-intimidating at all when compared to Jango Fett's armor that had a Jet Pack combined with a rocket pack, a blade and a rope like in the movies. I personally feel like they should be a tad skinnier and have a Jetpack each. Maybe in Aperion or a new kotor rpg by disney there could be some awesome jet pack battles in the sky. Good point! They didn't have jetpacks, though, to be fair it is 10,000 years prior, perhaps the technology was not adequate for Mandalorians to willingly carry around jetpacks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haveayap 127 Posted March 15, 2017 I think why people hated the Kotor Mandalorians was because their appearance wasn't near as cool as Jango Fett and Boba Fett's armor in the movies. Kotor came out in 2003 a year after episode 2 and they probably found the Kotor Mandalorian Armor as non-intimidating at all when compared to Jango Fett's armor that had a Jet Pack combined with a rocket pack, a blade and a rope like in the movies. I personally feel like they should be a tad skinnier and have a Jetpack each. Maybe in Aperion or a new kotor rpg by disney there could be some awesome jet pack battles in the sky. I didnt hate the model... it was lacking though. I would have liked to have seen something that set Mandolorian Armour apart from other pieces of armour in game. not just design differences. Mandolorians do not inspire the same fear in the KOTOR series as they should off IMO compared to the movies and other EU content Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair Strides 509 Posted March 15, 2017 Good point! They didn't have jetpacks, though, to be fair it is 10,000 years prior, perhaps the technology was not adequate for Mandalorians to willingly carry around jetpacks? 10,000 years?! Excuse me! It's only 4000 years BBY, and like 3955 or 3956 in KotOR 2. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N-DReW25 1,320 Posted March 15, 2017 10,000 years?! Excuse me! It's only 4000 years BBY, and like 3955 or 3956 in KotOR 2. But to state that! He is likely referring to the first Mandalorians but Fair Strides is very right when referring to Kotor Mandalorians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superSzym 155 Posted March 15, 2017 10,000 years?! Excuse me! It's only 4000 years BBY, and like 3955 or 3956 in KotOR 2. KotOR 1 is in 3956 BBY. KotOR 2 is in 3951 BBY. But jetpacks could be in their early stage of development, considering the fact that it's, in fact, quite quickly losing height and easy to destroy in Episode II. I actually like KotOR Mandalorians. Different design shows that the culture evolves, which is hard to see in other parts of Old Republic era. Like Malkior already mentioned, Death Watch armor doesn't really match with KotOR theme. And in larger groups they actually look like intimidating warriors. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 15, 2017 It would be great if we could get a mod, at least for K2 where they look like the above art of the Neo Crusaders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VarsityPuppet 1,085 Posted March 15, 2017 I personally think the Neo-Crusader armor is fine. We maybe need to consolidate some of the reskins to generate a little more variance in the armors though. Shiny, dirty, faded, jungle camo, etc. But what we might actually need is more variation in the armor. The Mandos are presumably all over the place, and one would think they have put effort into customizing their armor, be it painting on Neo-Crusader armor or starting to evolve the armor a bit. Maybe the Neo-Crusader purists like to keep their armor in its vanilla state, as a way of remembering the glory days. And it would certainly be cool to see the Dxun camp start to evolve the amor a bit. Separating the helmet from the armor (similar to SWTOR-style mandalorians), armor that is much more cobbled, but still very "mandalorian" in design 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadMan 103 Posted March 15, 2017 I think why people hated the Kotor Mandalorians was because their appearance wasn't near as cool as Jango Fett and Boba Fett's armor in the movies. THAT is why I made my mod! I like to have cool looking stuff in my game. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc2 581 Posted March 15, 2017 THAT is why I made my mod! I like to have cool looking stuff in my game. Ahahha, your Mandalorian mod does look amazing! I'm just a huge fan of Mandalorians in general, I just can't get enough of them. ^^ 10,000 years?! Excuse me! It's only 4000 years BBY, and like 3955 or 3956 in KotOR 2. Truth! ;P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 15, 2017 I personally think the Neo-Crusader armor is fine. We maybe need to consolidate some of the reskins to generate a little more variance in the armors though. Shiny, dirty, faded, jungle camo, etc. But what we might actually need is more variation in the armor. The Mandos are presumably all over the place, and one would think they have put effort into customizing their armor, be it painting on Neo-Crusader armor or starting to evolve the armor a bit. Maybe the Neo-Crusader purists like to keep their armor in its vanilla state, as a way of remembering the glory days. And it would certainly be cool to see the Dxun camp start to evolve the amor a bit. Separating the helmet from the armor (similar to SWTOR-style mandalorians), armor that is much more cobbled, but still very "mandalorian" in design That's a bloody excellent idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beepzorz 1 Posted March 16, 2017 They just look off. It doesn't look like a believable rendering of someone wearing a heavy suit of armor. It's too colorful. The shoulderpads look they were glued on the suit later. The helmet/head also looks weird, almost triangle-shaped, and that tiny black visor strip just looks awkward. I've always thought Boba Fett looked goofy, but the Kotor Mandalorians are even worse. To be honest, I've never been a fan of most of the armor designs in the Kotor games. Bioware, and to a lesser extent Obsidian, adopted the gaudy aesthetics of the prequel movies rather than the visual style of the OT, which was a bit of a mistake IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites