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Are you quoting Fair Strides? You do know you can click on the "eye" icon on the top of the comment box and use quotes like I am now, doing so will make your comment much easier for others to follow. The sale of mods in the Kotor Modding Community is prohibited, hence why that part is moot. But ignoring the prospect of making money, modding is a hobby - if we wanted to make money doing stuff like this we'd either join a game dev company or focus on indie video game development. He didn't give a deadline, and so there is no expectations for him to release it any time soon. This gives him an unlimited amount of time to development and perfect his mod. Almost 20 years of development and the most recent preview he released is this. That video is pure gold, absolutely amazing stuff, and I'm more than happy to forget about Sleheyron for the time being so that, one day, he can release his mod to that quality. I'm sure if we looked back at SithSpecter's Sleheyron back in 2008 when it was first being developed, if we compared 6 months worth of development to his most up to date almost 20 years of development I'm sure even SithSpecter would agree that the 6 months worth of work is garbage when you compare it to his most up to date work. I'll tell you this, ROR reentered development in the late 2010s and had an internal release of 2021 - everyone would've loved a 2021 ROR release, but if it was released in 2021 it would've been to the exact same quality as the 2011 Demo. We obviously missed the 2021 deadline, but by not announcing it we could just... move on and go about developing the mod as if nothing had happened. There was no outside pressure to release a half-finished mess and by giving ROR more time, and not giving a release deadline, we were able to release ROR Episode One which many can agree is way better than the 2011 Demo. This is why the veteran modders here are pointing out the deadline, albeit I do agree that it does seem a bit harsh. I'm on the same page as Mephiles550 in that I do want to see this mod released. But for modders who lived to see TSLRP and all the drama surrounding that mod back in the day, seeing Sao pop up out of nowhere, claim he's been working on Sleheyron, claim that it's already fully voiced, claim that it already has 30 new areas, claim that it already has a recruitable character, claim that the mod is already finished in May and will be released within May and then go on to withhold screenshots does feel as if history is just repeating itself for these guys. And trust me, I've seen users claim they'll make a recruitable character, then go on to us prominent modders and send a hundred page manuscript for said recruitable character and it turns out the character is a self-insert of the user irl and is just hundreds of pages of pure slop, not even AI just pure handwritten slop, then go on to beg modders like us to make the recruitable character mod for them and then go on to confess that they only have Kotor on the original Xbox. And then there was that one guy who tried to gaslight people into making his "Recruitable Sarna" mod for him too. That's just the stuff I've witnessed, these guys had to deal with Darth Balor and his shenanigans back in the late 2000s. I know Sao isn't like those guys, but the negative reactions here are coming from people who have historically had to deal with crazy people like what I just described. Here's the thing, he hadn't shown screenshots. From the point of view of one of us, Sao is just a profile picture and a username - how do we know he's being serious without screenshots? As I've described, we have had really delusional people in the past make such ambitious projects and they're genuinely Chris Chan level of pathetic. Sao did send screenshots... today, not when SH asked for screenshots hence why there was doubt. But now that Sao has shown us screenshots, it shows us that there is a genuine mod in the works. I'm glad he's posted them and I hope it does see the light of day. I need you to understand that, from our point of view, we wouldn't know that he did any of that - how would we know anyway??? Revenge of Revan is being worked on, but none of you know what's being worked on because we're not revealing it to the public - the same applies here in this situation. She means you're not the team leader of the mod. The team leader would usually be the one to upload the mod when it's ready, and Sao hasn't publicly announced that you're on the Sleheyron: Story Mode dev team - hence her skepticism. It's just like how I'm not the team leader of the Revenge of Revan mod, Logan23 is. Like Sao, you are likewise new to the community. Even if I were the one defending Sao's work, no one is going to change the minds of the veteran modders so there isn't much point in vigorously defending against them. They aren't going to care for your defense and wouldn't care if you blocked them, maybe a proper release could change their minds but even still when Revenge of Revan came out the joke went from "ROR's never going to release" to "remind me in 2045 when Episode Two's going to come out" so there's little point fussing over their opinions. From our own experiences, 10% of WIP threads produce actual mod releases. The other 90% were "making false promises". Trust me, if someone else joined and made another ambitious WIP thread they'll probably think the same thing for their mods too.