Question to Copyright

[Jorak Uln 458]

Hi there, 

 

Im new to this forum  - and new to modding

 

the thing is - since there are some really awesome mods out there, that give TSL a "next gen" look - i  was always annoyed by the poor looks of the gui icons.... - and since to my knowledge there isnt any mod so far that changes this -

i decided to change it myself and just cut out/rename the SWTOR icon images from torhead.com. (i know, nothing special so far...)

So my question to you modders out there: if i  release them - is there any problem with copyright?

(Since they are entirely from torhead; no resources from Swtor taken)

[VarsityPuppet 1,085]

The best thing you can do is contact someone from that site and ask them to use the icons.

[Vriff 21]

FYI The icons are ripped straight from SWTOR. Datamined, although I think some of them are distributed in fan site packages, it is unlikely you'd be allowed to use them.

[Tyvokka 198]

I would say if the icons are part of the fansite package then your mod would be in just as much of a grey area as any other mod out there. 

[Jorak Uln 458]

Thanks for your opinions, i have contacted the guys from torhead; we will see what happens.

[Jorak Uln 458]

Hey everyone, 

 

long time ago i started this thread - in the meantime my first ressource torhead.com has been shut down (they never replied to my PM however); so to take a break from my other texturing projects  i went back doing some icons, this time i use this site:

 

the dulfy calculator which uses all the ability/talent icons from SWTOR:

 

http://dulfy.net/2014/10/13/swtor-disciplines-calculator-swtor_miner/?link=dGEAAAE8AgEBFwAAAAAAAAAA

 

 

I modified that icons with a gradient so they dont use the original Bioware design anymore:

 

 

 

 

So - would a mod release based on that images  be legal regarding porting? The ressources are not from SWTOR itself but from dulfy and they use a different appearance (with gradient)...i would really love to do this mod, but what do you guys think? (Btw, the calculator also seems legal..)

[Sith Holocron 2,479]

1) I have the official fan site package. The icons are not in there. Furthermore, even if they were, the legal agreement that accompanies them does not give legal permission for use of any artwork to be used except for the purposes in making a fan site.

Here's the legal agreement if you wish to read it in full.

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2} Have you read either the Deadly Stream general site rules or our official policy or porting? If not, please do so.

3) You mentioned Torhead. They've given up their site but before they did, the had the links auto-forward to the official "The Old Republic" site. One could infer that they wish all further questions to be asked of Bioware. Have you considered just asked Bioware for written permission or guidance?

[Jorak Uln 458]

Hi, 

 

im searching for a vanilla-esque cliff texture for Telos TEL_rock, and finally got one here:

 

https://social.bioware.com/wiki/datoolset/index.php/Terrain_list

 

The specific texture is listed under natural stone ter_cliff01d.

 

Screenshot:

 

 

 

Its apparently a ressource from the Dragon Age Toolset, however its listed on that website.

Im really not sure if its regarded porting and due to not owning DA i cant post in the Bioware/Dragon Age forum, maybe you guys could shed some light in this.

 

Btw, its the only texture id use but if someone knows a better one (more true to the vanilla game) would be viable too.

Any suggestions?