Hassat Hunter 571 Posted March 4, 2011 Nah, it's the dialogue for leaving with Kreia to the Unknown Worlds. Obviously... cut. "Now, you are finally ready for war again. The Unknown Regions call to us, just as they called to Revan. It is time to leave the Republic to die." "Are you ready?" "They have done what was necessary, and they will live their lives better for having known you." [end] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DH-010 Posted March 4, 2011 I suppose that piece of content cannot be restored? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slstoev Posted March 4, 2011 It would be cool of you could save Kreia. I wonder what Atton reaction would be in TSLRCM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,477 Posted March 4, 2011 Nah, it's the dialogue for leaving with Kreia to the Unknown Worlds. Obviously... cut. Then my recommendation to use that line to ask Kreia about the droids of M4-78 still stands. It could also be used in a more general sense for any droids you have encountered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassat Hunter 571 Posted March 5, 2011 Then my recommendation to use that line to ask Kreia about the droids of M4-78 still stands. It could also be used in a more general sense for any droids you have encountered. No, she explicitely states she doesn't know about the fates of HK, G0-T0, Remote and T3 (and Bao-Dur). As she can't sense them. And hate them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney 1,511 Posted March 5, 2011 No, she explicitely states she doesn't know about the fates of HK, G0-T0, Remote and T3 (and Bao-Dur). As she can't sense them. And hate them... Also remember when Kreia is teaching you to "listen" aboard the EH she can't sense the droids there either. So for her to sense an entire droid planet and know what happened to them wouldn't make a lot of sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pazaak 12 Posted March 5, 2011 Also remember when Kreia is teaching you to "listen" aboard the EH she can't sense the droids there either. So for her to sense an entire droid planet and know what happened to them wouldn't make a lot of sense. Huh. Forgot about that, but now that you've reminded me, yeah I guess it doesn't make any sense. Doesn't she say something about the droids, though? Not that you can feel them, but something about small oscillations of energy that they give off or something? I don't remember. And I'm sure it couldn't work in the same way as sensing their future, or the fate of M4, but I still remembered that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,477 Posted March 5, 2011 No, she explicitely states she doesn't know about the fates of HK, G0-T0, Remote and T3 (and Bao-Dur). As she can't sense them. And hate them... Also remember when Kreia is teaching you to "listen" aboard the EH she can't sense the droids there either. So for her to sense an entire droid planet and know what happened to them wouldn't make a lot of sense. Would it not be wise then to have Kreia stay on board when the Ebon Hawk is on M4-78 - for those precise reasons? There are a number of files where she express her distaste of droids that could be utilized. (Well, those lines and the spliced ones.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassat Hunter 571 Posted March 5, 2011 Pretty much everyone on the EH hates droids . Atton, Kreia, Canderous. The list gets pretty small if we need to ban them all . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DH-010 Posted March 5, 2011 Well then you'd have to use the droid characters on M4-78, that could be fitting I think... Although you are already forced to use the droids at the start off-course, if it's similar to the original mod. Also, are there vo's for Atton and the rest for the planet? Wouldn't want to miss those! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,477 Posted March 5, 2011 Pretty much everyone on the EH hates droids . Atton, Kreia, Canderous. The list gets pretty small if we need to ban them all . Then utilize those characters in first person mode - so you take advantage of writing lines for those characters that expose those hatreds. The positive of doing it that way is that you don't need to find any lines to have the conversation or have a need to splice together any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crazzyy Posted March 5, 2011 I have an idea. I haven't played kotor for some time and i don't remember the full story but listen to what i have to say. at the end of the game bao-dur disappears. i think that he went to m4-78 as hk-47 went to the hk factory. I don't remember if goto was at the final battle for telos iv, but i think that he shouldn't appear as a party member. he wasn't intended as a caracter for nar shadaa, but for m4-78 as also the puzzles on his ship. at the battle for telos goto goes to m4-78 to seize control, but bao-dur follows him to stop him. he dies trying to stop goto and records a message on his remote and lets the exile know that his sacrifice wasn't in wain and he also tells the exile of gotos true intentions. after he saves telos he goes to m4-78 and finds the remote with the message. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrPhil 58 Posted March 6, 2011 Do you plan on using the feat "Speak with other droids" or something along that line that was available for Hk-47 but wasn't useful in any way in the end? Here's an idea of how to render-it usable. Make most of the M4-78 droids speak with beeps and boops. Then, there would be a conditional script that would check that the feat is acquired or not. If the feat is acquired, there would be a translation under the writtent beeps and boops. Those lines could be clues to get further, may perhaps allow to make a side-quest otherwise undoable or might just be funny disrespectful comments along the line of "Watch where you step, I just spent 2 years washing the bloodstain of the last organic that tried to stain my floor." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney 1,511 Posted March 6, 2011 I have an idea. I haven't played kotor for some time and i don't remember the full story but listen to what i have to say. at the end of the game bao-dur disappears. i think that he went to m4-78 as hk-47 went to the hk factory. I don't remember if goto was at the final battle for telos iv, but i think that he shouldn't appear as a party member. he wasn't intended as a caracter for nar shadaa, but for m4-78 as also the puzzles on his ship. at the battle for telos goto goes to m4-78 to seize control, but bao-dur follows him to stop him. he dies trying to stop goto and records a message on his remote and lets the exile know that his sacrifice wasn't in wain and he also tells the exile of gotos true intentions. after he saves telos he goes to m4-78 and finds the remote with the message. There was some insight as to what Obsidians ideas were with BaoDurr(I can't find the link currently)but Tpiom did an interview with Chris Avalone(lead developer for TSL) and the intention possibly was for BaoDurr to die while helping HK47 get to the HK factory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bendarby24 Posted March 6, 2011 On the demo, wasn't there a way that Bao-Dur died on M4-78? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith Holocron 2,477 Posted March 6, 2011 On the demo, wasn't there a way that Bao-Dur died on M4-78? Might you have a link to a mention of that somewhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassat Hunter 571 Posted March 6, 2011 Do you plan on using the feat "Speak with other droids" or something along that line that was available for Hk-47 but wasn't useful in any way in the end? There better be . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bendarby24 Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) Might you have a link to a mention of that somewhere? There is no link because that is what I recall. I think it said it some were in what is and isn't restored in TSLRCM. Update: Yep, I was right. Stoney said in "What's Restored in TSLRCM" and under what Miscellaneous, there was this: [NR - possibly M4-78EP] Bao-Dur's sacrifice - In the released audio demo, one of Bao-Dur's lines is "Make my sacrifice matter". Presumably, Bao-Dur dies at some point near the end-game. Edited March 6, 2011 by Sith Holocron Combined two posts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassat Hunter 571 Posted March 6, 2011 We (And by that I mean "I") should really update that list, seeing the changes between 1.4 (when it was made) and 1.8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbdaman 71 Posted April 15, 2011 Bao-Durs death is implied in the tslrcm: Grenn says weres bao Dur And atton says ya were is he, hk-47 too Which implies he goes with hk-47 and possibly dies The fact they don't know about his death means he likely didn't die on m4-78 Does anyone no if the make my sacrifice matter line still exists Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrPhil 58 Posted April 15, 2011 I think it was restored, wasn't-it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassat Hunter 571 Posted April 16, 2011 Yeash, if "were is (s)he?" means (s)he HAS to be dead, there would be a lot more childress parents on the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjo 2 Posted April 16, 2011 Yeash, if "were is (s)he?" means (s)he HAS to be dead, there would be a lot more childress parents on the world. But anyway. I thought that if someone disappeared and a body was never found, it's a sure sign the character wasn't dead. Or have I just been reading too many comics again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbdaman 71 Posted April 16, 2011 zbyl2: Yes, Master Vash will be alive and well on the planet, doesn't mean she'll stay that way by the time you take off... I think Vash shouldn't always die because in obsidians original design she dosent always die, her .utc file in the rebuilt enclave is proof of that. Even if she doesn't say much neither does zez-kai-el Also has Tourath been removed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mablus25 Posted May 2, 2011 Question: How meny quests will there be for a storyline also how meny bonus quests as well for the mod? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
