Grey Jedi Merchant Mod

[jc2 581]

Hey Deadlystream!

I'm working on a merchant replacement for yortal Ixis on Manaan. He's the Ithorian right outside the Sith base who gets mocked by the Sith about his shop being "trash." Anyways, I always thought he was worthless, never having any good items, just some lame droid ones, and after playing TSL I got really tired of hearing Ithorians speak. I am replacing him with Shanilia.

 

Three things I want to achieve:

 

Overwrite Yortal to Shanilia (A Grey Jedi Merchant) 

 

Add excessive new dialogue to Shanilia, which will become available based on plot advances in kotor,

(i.e. Selkath Youth Corr Quest, Sith Embassy infiltration, Swoop racing champion, Revan Revelation, darkside/lightside completion of Manaan, Korriban, and mabye Kashyyyk.) 

 

Add a few custom items to Shanilia's Shop including a Dxun Robe, a Mandalorian sword, Bothan Baton, and the robes from my previous mod. 

 

Some facts about Shanilia:

Follows the Grey Jedi Code

Was a Revanchist

Trades on Manaan

Knew Jolee Bindo

Trained on the Jedi Temple on Dorin (as shown to have a Jedi Temple by the Mandalorian Wars chart)

Twi'lek, speaks Ryl

 

 

 

 

Currently, I have myself and another writer working on the dialogue/backstory of Shanilia with a rough draft consisting of 5,000 words. 

 

 

 

Issues: Haven't gotten the Mando'a blade, and Bothan Baton to accept reskin changes, they look vanilla with only the stats changed.

Have not tested out a few scripts to be sure they do what I think they do. 

Have not tested out all of the female Ryl voice overs, so I am still working on what sound file has what emotion attached to it.

 

Anyways, I thought a WIP would keep me motivated to finish the mod.  

As always, feedback, regardless of its nature, is welcome! 

[LewsTherinTelescope 18]

Thai mod seems cool.

Maybe, since he was a Revanchist, he should recognize the PC as Revanchist, after the Leviathan, of course.

[Malkior 476]

So, if Shanilia was a Revanchist, do you think they knew Squink-I mean- Malak before he became a Sith Lord? Perhaps also lying low on Manaan to see how this whole "Jedi Civil War" nonsense plays out?

[N-DReW25 1,336]

Thai mod seems cool.

Maybe, since he was a Revanchist, he should recognize the PC as Revanchist, after the Leviathan, of course.

Since Revan wore a mask for some time maybe the Grey Jedi doesn't recognise him instantly or he says something like "Have we met before, I swear I have seen you before" and maybe he remembers after the Leviathan then gives you a discount and starts a Chat about the Mandalorian Wars and maybe opens up a new merchant inventory similar to Dendis Dobo in TSL where he has like "Premium Items" like the Bartender on Korriban has!

[jc2 581]

 

Thai mod seems cool.
Maybe, since he was a Revanchist, he should recognize the PC as Revanchist, after the Leviathan, of course.

As N-Drew25 mentioned, Shanilia did not meet Revan before the Massacre at Cathar. Therefore, she has not seen Revan without his mask, which he acquired after surveying the remains of genocide on Cathar. I'm dreadfully sorry I didn't make the gender clear, but Shanilia is a lady.

 

So, if Shanilia was a Revanchist, do you think they knew Squink-I mean- Malak before he became a Sith Lord? Perhaps also lying low on Manaan to see how this whole "Jedi Civil War" nonsense plays out?

At the moment, I have no dialogue concerning Malak written. Nor does Malak come up in her backstory, though Revan does and another iconic character from the kotors era. As to your second question, Shanilia is meditating on Manaan, (working as a shop keeper to pay the bills), to discern how a Grey Jedi should approach the Jedi Civil War. Revan's death plays a part in shaping her current situation.

 

Since Revan wore a mask for some time maybe the Grey Jedi doesn't recognise him instantly or he says something like "Have we met before, I swear I have seen you before" and maybe he remembers after the Leviathan then gives you a discount and starts a Chat about the Mandalorian Wars and maybe opens up a new merchant inventory similar to Dendis Dobo in TSL where he has like "Premium Items" like the Bartender on Korriban has!

I'm going in a direction similar to this, but I'm not focusing on the "premium items." You are 100% correct about Revan's Mask being the reason Shanilia doesn't recognize Revan. Also, Shanilia is a lady. I'm curious why everyone thought Shanilia would be a guy's name.

 

Update: Shanilia is about 55% done, I think.
1. Word count has been increased to roughly 6,500 and has been proofread, though can't be certain I didn't miss anything yet.

 

2. I had an issue with the git file for manm26ab, causing an issue blocking the PC from returning to the module, (PC would be arrested for breaking into the Sith Embassy and sent to Jail. It was on permanent loop sadly)

 

3. Switched shops and modules to fix this issue, since my modding skills/knowledge do not know how to deal with this issue.
4. Tyvark is the character I am going to change, he's the shopkeeper outside of the Republic Embassy. So far, I have managed to fix or solve any problems that I had with the last module, which is great!

 

5. I understand the different emotions portrayed in Ryl Voice overs and found the master list of VO's.
6. Still have the same issues with Mando'a blade and the Bothan Stunner, though the Bothan Stunner might be something I choose not to do.
7. Add Jedi Holocron made by InSidious found on DS in Modder's Resource category.
8. Wrote "Mandalore's" datapad, the self proclaimed leader of the Mandalorians you run into on Kashyyyk that ties into Shanilia's backstory.
9. Working on Shanilia's datapad to explain backstory and details not divulged in during dialogue with PC.
10. A unique look for both datapads' icons have been made.
11. Might attempt custom VO for a small scene depending on the quality I can get, done by a friend.

 

All in all, things are coming along at a decent pace. I'm just glad someone noticed this WIP thread!

[LewsTherinTelescope 18]

As N-Drew25 mentioned, Shanilia did not meet Revan before the Massacre at Cathar. Therefore, she has not seen Revan without his mask, which he acquired after surveying the remains of genocide on Cathar. I'm dreadfully sorry I didn't make the gender clear, but Shanilia is a lady. At the moment, I have no dialogue concerning Malak written. Nor does Malak come up in her backstory, though Revan does and another iconic character from the kotors era. As to your second question, Shanilia is meditating on Manaan, (working as a shop keeper to pay the bills), to discern how a Grey Jedi should approach the Jedi Civil War. Revan's death plays a part in shaping her current situation. I'm going in a direction similar to this, but I'm not focusing on the "premium items." You are 100% correct about Revan's Mask being the reason Shanilia doesn't recognize Revan. Also, Shanilia is a lady. I'm curious why everyone thought Shanilia would be a guy's name. Update: Shanilia is about 55% done, I think. 1. Word count has been increased to roughly 6,500 and has been proofread, though can't be certain I didn't miss anything yet. 2. I had an issue with the git file for manm26ab, causing an issue blocking the PC from returning to the module, (PC would be arrested for breaking into the Sith Embassy and sent to Jail. It was on permanent loop sadly)  3. Switched shops and modules to fix this issue, since my modding skills/knowledge do not know how to deal with this issue. 4. Tyvark is the character I am going to change, he's the shopkeeper outside of the Republic Embassy. So far, I have managed to fix or solve any problems that I had with the last module, which is great! 5. I understand the different emotions portrayed in Ryl Voice overs and found the master list of VO's.6. Still have the same issues with Mando'a blade and the Bothan Stunner, though the Bothan Stunner might be something I choose not to do. 7. Add Jedi Holocron made by InSidious found on DS in Modder's Resource category. 8. Wrote "Mandalore's" datapad, the self proclaimed leader of the Mandalorians you run into on Kashyyyk that ties into Shanilia's backstory.9. Working on Shanilia's datapad to explain backstory and details not divulged in during dialogue with PC.10. A unique look for both datapads' icons have been made.11. Might attempt custom VO for a small scene depending on the quality I can get, done by a friend. All in all, things are coming along at a decent pace. I'm just glad someone noticed this WIP thread!

About the gender thing, I didn't think about what the name sounded like. This is star wars- names sound weird ☺

"He" is often used when no gender is known, in addition to male.

One thing that's weird I've seen: even if they haven't seen his face, shouldn't a lot of jedi recognize him through his presence in the force or whatever? Maybe if Shanilia does figure out it's Revan that could be part of it.

[jc2 581]

About the gender thing, I didn't think about what the name sounded like. This is star wars- names sound weird ☺

"He" is often used when no gender is known, in addition to male.

One thing that's weird I've seen: even if they haven't seen his face, shouldn't a lot of jedi recognize him through his presence in the force or whatever? Maybe if Shanilia does figure out it's Revan that could be part of it.

You would think that, yet Revan's identity was destroyed his force presence has shifted, else everyone who ever knew him would recognize him. Feeling someone in the Force is not as cut and dry as people think, besides why did the entire jedi enclave at Dantooine not know he was Revan? Only the Jedi Counsel knew, and only because of information given by Bastila. From what I've seen in the movies and read in the "legends" cannon intimate knowledge of a person is required to sense their identity. Shanilia was not an intimate friend to Revan; therefore, she would not recognize his presense. In addition, none of the dark jedi (sith) Revan knew during the Mandalorian Wars, that you fight on each planet in groups of threes, do not recognize you. The only one that recognizes REvan by is presence is Jolee Bindo. So i believe Shanilia not knowing who Revan is, is plausible. 

[Haveayap 127]

You would think that, yet Revan's identity was destroyed his force presence has shifted, else everyone who ever knew him would recognize him. Feeling someone in the Force is not as cut and dry as people think, besides why did the entire jedi enclave at Dantooine not know he was Revan? Only the Jedi Counsel knew, and only because of information given by Bastila. From what I've seen in the movies and read in the "legends" cannon intimate knowledge of a person is required to sense their identity. Shanilia was not an intimate friend to Revan; therefore, she would not recognize his presense. In addition, none of the dark jedi (sith) Revan knew during the Mandalorian Wars, that you fight on each planet in groups of threes, do not recognize you. The only one that recognizes REvan by is presence is Jolee Bindo. So i believe Shanilia not knowing who Revan is, is plausible.

Maybe if you meet shanilia after the Leviathan, you could tell her or she could find out through connections

[jc2 581]

Maybe if you meet shanilia after the Leviathan, you could tell her or she could find out through connections

Yes, that is indeed the plan! For the PC to say he/she is Revan. (following the events at the Leviathan that is)

[LewsTherinTelescope 18]

You would think that, yet Revan's identity was destroyed his force presence has shifted, else everyone who ever knew him would recognize him. Feeling someone in the Force is not as cut and dry as people think, besides why did the entire jedi enclave at Dantooine not know he was Revan? Only the Jedi Counsel knew, and only because of information given by Bastila. From what I've seen in the movies and read in the "legends" cannon intimate knowledge of a person is required to sense their identity. Shanilia was not an intimate friend to Revan; therefore, she would not recognize his presense. In addition, none of the dark jedi (sith) Revan knew during the Mandalorian Wars, that you fight on each planet in groups of threes, do not recognize you. The only one that recognizes REvan by is presence is Jolee Bindo. So i believe Shanilia not knowing who Revan is, is plausible.

 

Makes sense. I am not force sensitive so I don't know if it's true or not I wonder, why does Jolee recognize Revan? I doubt he knew Revan that well...

 

I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned a Jedi Holocron, that will be cool.

 

Maybe there could be a small side quest as well. It could tie in to the Holocron, like going to find it or something.

While you probably already have a plan for it, a quest would be interesting.

[Haveayap 127]

Yes, that is indeed the plan! For the PC to say he/she is Revan. (following the events at the Leviathan that is)

You could branch out further. If you tell her your the dark lord, you get dark side points. If you don't tell her, you get no alignment change. You could also have her find out through a high ranking 'friend' in the sith because if you are light sided, idt you would tell her your an ex sith Lord. Just some food for thought

 

Makes sense. I am not force sensitive so I don't know if it's true or not I wonder, why does Jolee recognize Revan? I doubt he knew Revan that well...

 

I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned a Jedi Holocron, that will be cool.

 

Maybe there could be a small side quest as well. It could tie in to the Holocron, like going to find it or something.

While you probably already have a plan for it, a quest would be interesting.

It is never actually elaborated on how Jolee knew he was revan or even how he knew who revan and malak are (considering he was in exile on kashyyk well before the mandolorian wars). I always assumed that he may have met or spied on revan and malak when they were looking for the star maps the first time and somehow saw revan with his mask off. Seems like the best answer for how he knew the galaxies recent history so well. Meeting him may also explain why he willingly followed revan and tried to help him as he may have seems something that convinced him in his first meeting

[jc2 581]

Makes sense. I am not force sensitive so I don't know if it's true or not I wonder, why does Jolee recognize Revan? I doubt he knew Revan that well...

 

I noticed in an earlier post you mentioned a Jedi Holocron, that will be cool.

 

Maybe there could be a small side quest as well. It could tie in to the Holocron, like going to find it or something.

While you probably already have a plan for it, a quest would be interesting.

 

Yeah, I've always assumed Jolee knew because of his connection to the force. Somehow the Force revealed that to him, he said that he recognized Revan immediately, mabye from a vision? If I make the mod any larger with a quest, I think I would lose interest or fail. But I will keep this in mind. I do, however, have a unique use for the Jedi Holocron. 

 

You could branch out further. If you tell her your the dark lord, you get dark side points. If you don't tell her, you get no alignment change. You could also have her find out through a high ranking 'friend' in the sith because if you are light sided, idt you would tell her your an ex sith Lord. Just some food for thought

 

It is never actually elaborated on how Jolee knew he was revan or even how he knew who revan and malak are (considering he was in exile on kashyyk well before the mandolorian wars). I always assumed that he may have met or spied on revan and malak when they were looking for the star maps the first time and somehow saw revan with his mask off. Seems like the best answer for how he knew the galaxies recent history so well. Meeting him may also explain why he willingly followed revan and tried to help him as he may have seems something that convinced him in his first meeting

 

I plan to fully add alignment shifts and checks regarding this sort of thing. You and I seem to think alike, I will add different choices to explain your identity crisis.

As mentioned above, I think Jolee was given a Force vision. He knew that Revan was going to have a great destiny; he was more certain than Revan was about Revan, even after he/she found out. 

 

 

Recently, I've added Mandalorian armor to the list of items and changed the look of the Mandalorian Commander on Kashyyyk to that new look.

I've also learned a lot more about scripting that hopefully will allow me to finish this mod! 

The next major obstacle is testing out scripts, dialogue editing, and figuring out which scripts can be registered as (idk how to put this) already been fired to determine if certain dialogue trees are available. 

 

If you have an idea about something that should be added to the mod, feel free to share it! 

[jc2 581]

So this would increase incompatibility issues and idk how to do this yet, but should I add a journal update(s)?

 

The idea is that it would remind players to go back and speak with Shanilia after specific events. Especially, the last two conversations you have with Shanilia.

 

 

Spoiler 

 

Shanilia ends up on the Star Forge depending on your conversation choices.

[jc2 581]

Alright folks here are some images from what I've been up to lately. 

Steam links to screenshots, should be accessible by anyone. Please let me know if they don't work for you.

 

Inspired by this 

    I have created two Mandalorian suits of armor or Beskar'gam meaning "Iron Skin"  

 

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868035872

And

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868035831

 

Shanilia photo wearing Grey Jedi Robe from my previous Robe mod.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=868039170 

 

New Grey Jedi robe next my other Grey Jedi robe.  Feedback requested. 

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847255605 

 

Please give feedback on this one, I'm not quite sure where to go with it. It feels wrong at the moment.  P.S. it's the robe in the center.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847228613

 

I'm down to the last Massive file I have to edit. Shanilia's actual dialogue on Manaan. Idk how long it will take to get the VO and lips to work cohesively. Nor how long it will take to write the necessary scripts. Also, how to properly organize the dialogue so you don't have the same conversations over and over and over again, or the player doesn't get buried in dialogue without a way to leave. Really, just have to make an understandable "map" of the dialogue for players to get acquainted with. 

 

Any and all feedback is appreciated, and I mean this!

[jc2 581]

70% done with Shanilia. 

 

I know I've bounced around between replacing Yortal to replacing Tyvark. Therefore, to clarify Shanilia will replace Yortal the Ithorian* 

I apologize for how unclear that has become, I was tinkering with things I didn't understand and ended up realizing I was going about it wrong.

 

Things to do:

 

- Get lips,sounds, and animations to work for Shanilia, dialogue tree nearly finished.

 

- Write/organize boolean scripts,

 

- Write a few more scripts for the ending, increase ending options,

 

- Insert custom dialogue into the Manaan Shanilia cutscene including making custom lip movements.

 

- Script Shanilia into the Cantina, and script her disappearance from Cantina,

 

- Finally, learn how to use the TSLPATCHER.

 

After I've done all those things, Shanilia will finally be finished! 

[jc2 581]

The only thing left to do, is the TSL patcher, everything else should be 100%. Fixed a few bugs, fixed some typos, fixed some VOs. 

Hopefully, I can get the tslpatcher to work tonight and release Shanilia sometime tomorrow!