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[Darth_Delator 12]

Greetings to all.
Was listening through ..\StreamVoices\GBL files, and found certain dialogue lines from Kreia and Visas.

Spoilers I guess (highlight to view):

Kreia:
" Are you ready for more combat training?"
"Very well, let us see the miraluka. We will require her assistance"
Also she tells you to not waste her time, If you don't want to fight.

VIsas:
"This is the second time you have showed me mercy.." and other lines.

Then Visas trains you lightsaber combat without Kreia's supervision.


(Haven't figured out how to do "spoiler" thing properly, sorry.)

Does this all imply that there was supposed to be a *second* spar practice with Visas?
Is it in plans to restore, and is it possible to restore? Or is it already in the game and I just haven't bumped into it?

Thank you.

[Fair Strides 510]

Actually, this is in TSLRCM already. I forget which version it got added in, but you need two single lightsabers and one double-saber all not equipped before the game lets you do this. And I honestly don't know what opens up this option in-game.

[Malkior 476]

Isn't that the first sparring practice where she tells you to fight Visas with two lightsabers, or is the OP referring to a different time as the first?

[Fair Strides 510]

Well, there's the time you fight Visas when she first comes onto your ship.

 

Then you can ask Kreia about lightsaber combat and she won't let you proceed unless you have two single sabers and a double stashed in your inventory. Then she'll take you to Visas and you will spar with her:

 

1st time: I believe it's you (single saber) vs her (unarmed).

2nd time: I believe it's you (unarmed) vs her (single or double, I forget).

3rd time: I believe it's you (single saber) vs her (single).

4th? time: I forget if there's a 4th round, but if so, I think you get the double or two singles.

 

Visas will also do the Force Sight thing against you again.

[Darth_Delator 12]

I was going through that sequence again and again, trying to refuse fighting her (trying both M/F PC), but it's impossible. You doing 4 rounds, getting some feats as reward, and no one mentions it in the future.
Referring to good old restored spar sequence, when you have to equip single saber, and have another single blade in inventory, to trigger this event in dialogue with Kreia. After which there's no new line in dialogue about saber sparring.
Tried to unequip everything, as Fair Strides suggested, have several single and one double-blader in inventory, in hopes to trigger some different version of duelling, but the sequence just won't start.

Also, found files in the same folder where Kreia says (Spoilers?):

"Now..Try Shien form", "Now, try Juyo Form" and the rest of them. Seems like it also should have been part of extended saber practice.

[Darth_Delator 12]

Well, there's the time you fight Visas when she first comes onto your ship.

 

Then you can ask Kreia about lightsaber combat and she won't let you proceed unless you have two single sabers and a double stashed in your inventory. Then she'll take you to Visas and you will spar with her:

 

1st time: I believe it's you (single saber) vs her (unarmed).

2nd time: I believe it's you (unarmed) vs her (single or double, I forget).

3rd time: I believe it's you (single saber) vs her (single).

4th? time: I forget if there's a 4th round, but if so, I think you get the double or two singles.

 

Visas will also do the Force Sight thing against you again.

Update:

Every time I tried, I've got only 3 rounds:

1. Single blade

2. Two blades

3. Unarmed

No fourth round, double-bladed wasn't mentioned.

 

If someone got more extended version of this sequence, let me know. Maybe influence on VIsas/ Handmaiden plays some role here (both are maxed,though..). Or maybe it's advanced class which determines the content of spar practice?

[Hassat Hunter 571]

Nope, that's it.

 

You can see the additional lines in kreia.dlg at the bottom, where all cut content usually resides.

Well, except for the additional skill-lesson stuff that's just where it should be, untriggered.

[Darth_Delator 12]

Nope, that's it.

 

You can see the additional lines in kreia.dlg at the bottom, where all cut content usually resides.

Well, except for the additional skill-lesson stuff that's just where it should be, untriggered.

I'm confused. So all these lines are in the game? Then how to trigger them?

Not sure if it's allowed to attach game files here, so I'll send you what I've found in PM.

I understand that everyone is busy here with new project and stuff, but I hope someone will be able to shed light on the matter.

[Raider 1]

After you spar with Visas it opens up more dialogue with Kreia later in the game and I think you need high awareness to trigger the coversation (no other options came up only the awareness check). I really can't say what the convo is about because I would'nt want to spoil it for everyone

 

I have'nt triggered a 2nd sparring session with Visas, so not sure if that's a possibility.

[Darth_Delator 12]

Ok, thanks for that bit of info

Update:
I double checked. Despite having very high awareness, and "dialogue progress" with all companions, this second spar sequence won't start.
Seems like I've dragged everything I could out of Kreia, and there're only standard lines with already unlocked ones.
So, again, maybe this requires prestige-class of Weapon master, or Marauder to trigger advanced lightsaber training?

[Hassat Hunter 571]

Again; There is no second sparring match.

[Darth_Delator 12]

Again: then where are these lines, what triggers them?
Suggested kreia.dlg file was of no use.