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Speaking as someone that's old, I think it's fair and right to acknowledge the efforts of "those that came before you" and made the “modding road” easier for users to walk. When PCGamemods.com bit the dust some time ago, folks considered themselves lucky that there was another place to turn to in order to download mods. Kfiles was and is an easy to find repository of all types of mods – from the basic to the very advanced - for both K1 and TSL.
Let's think of a few reasons why we at Deadly Stream should be grateful for Kfiles
1) Unmasking PIKMIN / DARTH BALOR: If it wasn't the efforts of the folks both here and over there, a plagiarist might have kept M4-78 from being published as widely as it was. K-files looked at the facts and unlike some other places I could mention DIDN'T tar the whole team with the same accusations of plagiarism.
2) I don't know about you but I like the reviews at the top of the page over at K-files. The files may get approved here quicker but there was something nice about having a experienced modder actually use your mod and make comments before opening it to the floor. They don't seem to really do that anymore but I did like it.
3) Poll questions and picture of the day: They may not have updated their POTD for some time but these used to be a center of attention at K-files. I personally remember seeing a series of pictures done by someone named Darth_Sith44 (but I'm probably remembering the name wrong.) It was the first time I realized that you could alter the cameras inside the game for such a purpose. I wouldn't mind seeing trivial poll questions appearing over here. Of course, since I came up with two trivial poll questions about lightsaber colors lately, I might be a little biased.
There's something else as long as I'm rambling. Deadly Stream is mostly focused around TSLRCM and mods that will work with it. It had a life as a forum before the download section existed. Kfiles on the other hand is more utilitarian in nature. If folks wanted to discuss a mod at length, they didn't do it there - they did it at LF.
Sure, Kfiles hasn't been the same since the page was bought out by the company that currently owns it. However, I'd sure as hell miss it if it left the internet today. (Again.) If you all think that K-files should bite the dust, perhaps you should look through all the mods that have been published there over the years. You know, just in case it does. (Again.)
/rant
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I'd get Logan's Bao-Dur voice guy to do that same line, but maybe add the radio equalizer to it. That'd be way better, I think. I think Bao-Dur's death, in order to be functional in the game at all, needs to happen regardless of whether or not you activate HK or the HK factory quest. As such, I would then argue that Bao-Dur needs to die some other way, not by helping HK get to the factory. Yes, I know Chris Avellone himself that's how Bao-Dur dies, but honestly people, unless we make the HK factory an absolute obligation in TSL, I don't think that fate is an option.But I am in favor of him dying to save Telos in some form or another. How exactly, I'm not sure. Maybe he'd kamikaze a group of Sith Troops as they try to hijack the fuel lines? Maybe he's trying to protect the Ithorian's work?
The portion regarding Bao-Dur (possibly) dying as part of the HK Factory I would like to see but only as an optional add-on and not part of TSLRCM proper. VP, it does look like it would be a worthy inclusion for one of your releases - if not for Malachor VI, then one of your packs.
I once had my own work up on how to set up Bao-Dur's death at the hands of the HK-50's on Telos but unfortunately, it's saved on my home computer where I have no way of getting it. (Stoney probably has my most recent version of it.) I even had worked out what lines could be spliced in order to have as much of it voiced as possible and where to set up the cameras. (I pictured the shuttle that Bao-Dur and HK-47 used would land on the platform just outside the Czerka Underground Base.)
VP, it is interesting that by using the VO actor for Logan23's ROR - you're essentially proposing killing the Bao-Dur before he can appear in the sequel. If the same VO actor voiced both instances of Bao-Dur, I'd find that somewhat amusing.
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Not to sound impatient, or to be rushing u guys, but a better question would be: How much do you have done?
1) But you do sound impatient! LOL

2) Giving out a percentage done is a trap. Even if in their heads, they had a percentage mapped out, that doesn't take other matters into account - such as bug-removal and beta-testing.
Situations like these two can throw off a timeline: Will adding this cutscene over here break something over there? "Such and such modder" can offer their input/modding talents even though he wasn't available before?
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On the other hand, I prefer to guide to show what I've missed. I may get through the plot just fine but may have missed all the options. For example: it wasn't until I had completed the original KOTOR a few times before I realized I could actually "redeem Yuthura Ban" and not only bring her back to the Light Side but actually see her at Dantooine.
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I'd love to see one myself. it would be really great if they could get the guy that wrote this walkthrough at GameBanshee.com to do it for M4-78 Enhancement Project.
To be honest, I'd to see one written in the same style for the HK Factory, the Coruscant Mod, Newbiemodder's Korriban Expansion, and eventually Malachor VI . . . but I digress.
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Atris what? Why would she do that? Conflict?
I recommend checking this thread which covers this a little: http://deadlystream.com/forum/topic/606-tsl-vanilla-plot-holes/
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Perhaps you'll try your hands at Twi'leks next? Although I've seen reskins both great and shoddy for Twi'leks, it's unfortunate that there's only one body model for each gender. (I don't count Mission as she's a unique character.) Even altering the lekku (head tails) might be great for a start but some alteration in the mesh around the face would be a welcome change!
(I bet that Redrob41 and Logan23 would like to see something like that for Revenge of Revan too!)
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Wow, this thread is still up? Neat. I had some spare time and thought I'd go through some of these.
How does Lt Grenn know you're a Jedi? Who told him? The HK who told Peragus you're a Jedi you scrap just before leaving there...so who told Grenn...?? When you are first arrested on Telos it's for Peragus exploding then after you're attacked by the bogus Batu Rem Grenn somehow knows you're a Jedi? And this is before the TSF completes its investigation plus at this time you haven't yet met Atris so she doesn't know you're back in known space so she couldn't have ratted you out and it's not like KOTOR I in which Bastila adds a mind-erased Revan to the passenger manifest-which leads me to...Remember, the Exile's return has been posted mostly everywhere in the "coreward databases," according to HK-47. Though G0-T0 was looking for the Jedi, he was merely acting upon the information he had access to in those databases. Atris was the one that broadcast the information. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over agin expecting a different result. She did it with releasing the Exile's "homecoming" information and also she tried it before - in order to draw out the enemy at Kattar. Since G0-T0 knew about the Exile's return, who's to say Green didn't have access to the same information? Then again, maybe Admiral Onasi just told him that the Exile is an Exiled Jedi - as they were working together as well.
You're simply on-board the Harbinger and headed for Telos to supposedly aid in the restoration effort--in typical SW fashion, the ship gets hijacked and attacked by the Sith...and...T3 and the Ebon Hawk just happen to be conveniently accessible...?? Oh kay...T3-M4 was sent out by Bastila (or Carth) to find anyone that could help Revan. Who's to say that T3-M4 didn't seek out Kreia - his/her former master? T3-M4 obviously had the ship - the navicomputer can only be used by him, if you all recall.
Additionally, we do know pretty much every major figure (in the game) knows the Exile is coming back. Why wouldn't Kreia know too? Put T3-M4 searching for Kreia in the Ebon Hawk - and Kreia searching for the Exile using the information sent out by Atris and it isn't that much of a coincidence.
Right after telling you coincidence was on her side when she found you on the Harbinger, Kreia then says coincidences are rare...which is it...??If you take what I said earlier as fact, that would Kreia lying.
HK-47 states he is built after the Mandalorian Wars bothers me. I remember in KOTOR that his final story (unlocked after repairing his memory core several times) pertained to him being sent into space to assassinate Mandalore who reprogrammed HK. But if he was constructed after the Mandalorian Wars, there wouldn't have been a Mandalore to assassinate.That bothered me too. But there's very few continuity mistakes. I do recall one cut line saying Revan destroyed Telos even though it was well established the Malak did that in the first game. (I think the cut line was originally said by Kreia as I recall re-splicing it so she said Malak instead of Revan.)
Bao-Dur knows me. He tells me we were in the war together. Okay, I say, fair enough. Then he never talks to me again, never explains anything, never becomes a jedi, and just disappears from the story.Perhaps a quote from Chris Avellone himself might explain that . . .
Bao-Dur . . . we just didn't have time to finish his thread' date=' but if I recall (it's been a while), he was supposed to die on the attack on Telos to help HK-47 get to the HK-50 factory and shut it down to save the planet.[/quote']Those that love to push the line that LucasArts is evil because they didn't give Obisidian enough time . . . you're welcome.
Then I'm playing as remote, for no reason, and I'm like HUH!? Bao-Dur is talking about some thing called the Mass Shadow Generator, and I had NEVER heard of that before. He's asking me to prime it, I say, okay, whatever.See previous answer.
Additionally, in his first conversations, he does say he doesn't want to talk about the war if you don't mind, which seems to suggest that at some point you'd likely be talking about it more in some detail. (Greater detail than what wound up in the game files anyway.)Also, I always play as a male exile, so I don't really know a lot about Mical or anything, but he's a Republic spy, right? They never really DO anything about that, do they? Doesn't someone on the ship find out? Kreia, or Atton or someone? I don't remember. Then they just sorta let it slide.I think I may had a thread about that somewhere . . . oh yes, here.
I also thought it was really lazy when I found Vash dead. I knew that must've been cut content before I even KNEW it actually was. Why just kill off a master? Time constraints? I guess so. Also, no need to knock Sion or anything, but I don't think he could've killed Vash that easily.In Sion's defense, he can bring himself back from the dead over and over again, as long as you don't erode his will. Since they cut out M4-78 pretty early, it stands to reason her character was fully developed yet. (Hell, even M4-78 doesn't have any lines voiced or wirtten in the game.) Perhaps the game maker, didn't want to hear the voice actress do even more lines? Grey DeLisle also performed the voices for Brianna and the other Handmaidens. (Ok, for the last part - I kid, I kid.)
Also, as far as I know, Echani is first introduced in Kotor 2. Brianna and the sisters are Echani, and Atton has had Echani training. But what IS an Echani, exactly? Is it a race? A belief? I don't really remember them ever saying what the hell one was, I just remember Brianna saying she was one, that she was trained in the style, and that Atton was trained too.Echani were also in KOTOR1. One is being hired by the Sith in a cantina on Manaan - the same cantina that the Selkath asks you to do a mission to find missing Selkath children. Echani is both a near-muahm species and their unarmed martial art. In this case: Wookieepedia is your friend.
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Remember: she also pulls the "catatonic state" trick later - when the Exile is about to face the Red Eclipse gang. The Exile's companion's are about to fend off the attackers when Kreia incapictates them and then lies on the ground.
I think I'm remembering the scene corectly . . .
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It's probably too early to comment on that for the simple reason that none of the new dialogue has been distributed to the voice actors yet.
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Something has been annoying me for ages: when I get into Atris' "academy" after you bump in to "The Last Handmaiden" and her sisters, they say you must hand over your weapons. When the dialogue ends, it said "stupid computer" but no one said that dialogue! It happens whenever I play without any mod at all - including TSLRCM. Can anybody help me to stop it from doing that because it is really annoying!
Let me see if I am understanding you correctly - are you asking for a fix for vanilla (i.e. unmodded) TSL? IIRC, that bug where problems occur at the point where you give Handmaiden and her sisters your weapons at the Secret Academy was pixed in TSLRCM. If this isn't the issue, perhaps you record a video so we can all see exactly what you are talking about. If you ARE using TSLRCM, could you confirm that it's 1.7.
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I am unfamiliar with a Force Power causing an issue in the HK Factory. I don't even know how one would trigger seeing as HK-47 doesn't have any Force Powers and he goes there alone. Could someone describe this bug in detail so I may be enlightened?
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As long as Achilles' mods are being mentioned, I thought I may as well mention this one too: Crippling Strike Mod
I'll quote his page for the description of what this mod is supposed to do:
One of the first bugs I noticed when when TSL came out was that Bao-Dur's tree of specialized unarmed feats was broken (Repulsor Strike, Electrical Strike, & Gravitonic Strike). Unfortunately, this wasn't fixed in the 1.0b patch, so I decided to take matters into my own hands.Since Handmaiden's Echani Strike feats works, I decided to rename that feat tree to something neutral and give Bao-Dur access as well.
If I recall correctly, when I bugged the powers-that-be about this mod, I recall hearing that it wasn't compatible. (I'll adjust the main list to add this mod once I get this confirmed that it is incomaptible.) Player - as long as you're working on making old mods compatible with TSLRCM 1.7 (or higher), I hope you'll keep this one in mind too!
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Ah, right. I haven't actually tested it, I just assumed from "cut" being in the dialogue name.
(From AEon's Advanced KotOR FAQ)
Can Yuthura Ban be turned to the Light Side?Quote:
Hint: You will need to gain her "friendship" for this to work!
Map: Korriban, Sith Academy
When you join the Academy, Yuthura Ban will propose that you poison Master Uthar. You can learn much from her, among other things also about her past. If you have a high enough Persuasion skill (at least 15) you will even be able to win her friendship. When you then double-cross Master Uthar in the "Final Test" and side with Yuthura, beat Uthar, she will still turn on you, but when you beat her, you can *then* show mercy and turn her to the LS.
Tip: You will then have to fight the whole Academy! Much like you would have when killing both Uthar and Yuthura when playing DS.
and here are two YouTube videos uploaded by tehPrincessJ on this subject:
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Perhaps you and Stoffe can brainstorm something?
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Seeing as Revenge of Revan will be using the Telos destruction scene, I for one wouldn't want to see it twice.
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Looks like my video strikes again! (I assume it's my version.)
It was cut for a good reason, folks.
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Thanks for the updates, HH. Your updates are keeping me in the loop!
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Logan, thanks for e-mailing me the link. I really like your Voice Over actor for Bao-Dur as I feel he really nailed it. I might have a question about the music but I'll save that question for you off this thread.
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Too bad the link doesn't show up on my Blackberry.
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I wonder if he stills work on Sleheyron though. He used to send an update every few day or so. Then he just decided to make a completely new area. Then he did the same again. Then pffft. No news...
He's still got his hands in last I heard. I think there's an issue with him needing a scripter. Logan23 (of Revenge of Revan) might be able to say more on the subject as he was assisting Disbeliever for a time.
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This link should provide a wealth of discussion concerning KotOR1 Restoration: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=184979
As for Sleheyron, I'd check out Disbeliever's thread on that subject over at LucasForums every few months if I were you.
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You failed SH? Or an announcement of future things to come?
The computer I was working on decided to make a lair out of me - by locking me out of it. (Yes, really.)
Next time, I'll post the explanation after I do it. LOL
Anyway, back on topic . . .
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Ok I have a lot of mod ideas that I have been thinking of over the years. I’m not a modder so I need a modder to do these mods for me.
As this is clearly a request, I am merging this thread with the requests thread. Requests on Ben Darby's project should continue in PMs as to not clutter the main Requests thread.

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Too bad that I can't see the link on this computer. WCH, send me an e-mail at my work (.mil) address if you wish to chat!
Back on subject . . . I'd like to see what Zbyl and Stoney have to say aboyt K-files. I bet they have some fun anecdotes to share.