The HK-50 ending

[darthbdaman 71]

Because I was just reading here, that in what is now the canon ending, the HK-50s do indeed help HK-47, I think TSLRCM should keep the option to have the HK-50s destroy GOTO, firstly because of the canon ending, and secondly because I believe you should restore as much content as possible.

[VarsityPuppet 1,085]

Problem with the HK-50s joining HK-47 is that it's contradictory to the way the HK factory plays out. In fact, it contradicts the whole point of going to the HK factory in the first place, which is... altogether now - TO DESTROY THE HK-50S!

 

and actually, in the canon ending (a.k.a. the vanilla game) The HK-50s don't help defeat G0T0 at all.

 

Besides, check the other pages on starwars.wikia. I guarantee you they will offer conflicting information

[darthbdaman 71]

Yes, but did he expect to find the HK-51s. No. Does he still reprogram them. Yes. I am sure that if he realized that he could use the HK-50s, and he thought activating the unstable HK-51s was dangerous, he would have used the HK-50s.

 

Also every single page I read states that the HK-50s helped destroy GOTO. Lot's of stuff in the vanilla game is has been changed, like the handmaiden now travels with the female exile in canon.

[MrPhil 58]

Nah, HK despises the HK-50's. Even if he knew he could use them

[darthbdaman 71]

Are the HK-51s rusty red, no, does he still use them, yes, and he really hates things that aren't rusty red.

[VarsityPuppet 1,085]

From a standpoint of having made the HK factory itself, we have to go with what the game dialog offers us. There really is no clear indication whether or not HK-47 was meant to recruit the HK-50s, but there is evidence supporting the HK-51s. This is of course, during the last conversation with the HK-50s, when the HK-51s come walking in. Their dialog options indicate that they will kill all obsolete units, or that they will kill only the HK-50s and take control of the facility for HK-47.

 

In the original HK Factory files, both of the manufacturing terminals had the option to download either behavior core. NOTE: This was NOT an option to UPLOAD, but an option to download either behavior core into HK-47, not the other way around. Other than some silly comments about HK-47 having the new personality core, it served really no purpose. There was dialog that disallowed HK from using certain terminals, but ultimately they were never used since his self-preservation protocols have been modified to be able to kill other HK units (or something of that sort). Thus, the one shred of of evidence one could use to justify HK-50s joining HK is null.

 

Every other dialog in the HK factory files (or the entire game, really) never even hints or indicates that HK-47 and HK-50 would ever come to an agreeable relationship. Like I said before, even HK's motivation of going to the HK factory in the first place was to shut them down. Once you take that away from HK-47, the whole sidequest falls apart really fast.

 

We tried to offer as many options as possible when making the HK factory, but there are just a few things that, though not outside reality, didn't fit inside the realm of possibility. For instance, why not just leave the base and not do the factory before you start? Why not just give up on killing the HK-50s when your self-preservation protocols are revealed to not be able to harm another HK unit? What it boils down to is that HK-47 is his own character with his own motivations - and even though you control him in the HK factory, you don't just get to do whatever you want with HK. He has a mission, and the possibilities that we allowed were things that fit into his motivations. HK hates the HK-50s, but he wouldn't necessarily hate the next generation of HKs - the 51s, who are a homocidal bunch and have already reportedly killed some HK-50s. Notice how you still have to shut the factory down in order to have your final dialog with the HK-51s.

 

I know this is getting to be a long rant, but the fact of the matter is, there is not enough substantial evidence that the HK-50s should ever have joined HK-47. Even the dialog from Malachor (the raw, unrestored dialog with the orphan nodes) can't be all that supportive. Wookieepedia can write what it wants, hell canon can write what it wants, but the game files themselves and HK's own character motivations just can't support that notion.

[Guest Mablus25]

I agree with VP on the HK-50 stuff