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Regarding the companion training, I worked out something like this: Fighting Techniques trains Unarmed Specialist up to the players current rank (this gets around a Vanilla bug where Handmaiden and Bao-dur do not continue getting Unarmed Specialist as they level up, because there specific feats entries check there current class level, and not there overall level), otherwise it tends to be a useless ability as the numbers are too low unless you save all level ups for Jedi. Lightsaber Forms remains the same, but also allows the level up forms to be taught, so they dont get locked until Jedi level 13 (They are generally worse than the ones you could teach anyway) For the powers, I changed it to the unlockable powers that aren't taken by leveling up (I loathe when the game invalidates a level up choice by giving it to you for free later) Affect Mind (doesn't do anything in the base game, but I don't see any reason to remove it IMO) Dominate Mind (ditto) Force Sight (not Visas) (I did this at one point, but there is a bug where if Kreia or Visas use Force Sight as a power, it turns off when they are in first person) Breath Control Beast Trick Battle Precognition (Handmaiden always gets this when becoming a Jedi) Force Crush (won’t be opportunity to train in normal game) Force Enlightenment (won’t be opportunity to train in normal game) I also made it auto train everything that could be trained upon being made a Jedi for the first time as a QOL change. The dialogue patching wasn't setup properly for Holopatcher at the time so I never released it, I will check the required features have been added at some point.

So I made my own version but I gave it to SuperChameau to add as an alternative fix for his mod so that there aren't two versions of the same fix in different mods. His mod now comes with two versions, his fix which I believe is what you originally suggested, and my fix which is what I suggested. You pick one or the other during the installation process.

Hello, and welcome to the first Dev Diary of the Revenge of Revan mod. For those of us who have been living under a rock for the past decade, Revenge of Revan (or ROR for short) is a total conversion mod for Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II The Sith Lords (Kotor II) that adds a standalone original story that continues from where Kotor II left off. With the Star Wars The Old Republic MMO (often shortened as just TOR) being released not long after the original ROR Demo, and with the new and innovative modding tools released over the years since, the ROR mod has gone through some drastic changes and has never looked better! In this Dev Diary I hope to show you some of these exciting changes, but first… I need to address the following. Whilst the ROR mod is a spiritual successor to Kotor II, emphasis on “spiritual”, it is NOT Kotor III! Kotor III was a video game that was cancelled by LucasArts in the late 2000s, the ROR mod is entirely fan fiction. Whilst we do strive to make the characters, locations, and elements of the mod faithful to the canonical Legends material, the story you shall experience in the ROR mod is entirely NON-CANON and should be treated as such. The ROR mod is intended to act as a bridge between Kotor II and TOR MMO, you can play a strictly canonical playthrough that would hypothetically lead to the events of TOR or play a non-canonical playthrough that sees you defeat the Sith menace once and for all. We shall get into further detail about this in the next Dev Diary. For those who may be wondering, the ROR Dev Diaries serves a few purposes. 1) It allows for you, the player, to get a taste of the mod without having to download it first. 2) Assuming someone makes a YouTube video about the mod once it's released, thus making purpose 1 redundant, it serves to give you developer commentary on some of the choices made in the development of the ROR mod. Giving you a unique insight into the mod and may serve to answer any questions you may have had when playing, or you can ask your own questions in the comment section of this dev diary relating to the content I've showcased in-case I didn't answer your question. 3) It serves as a space for the ROR Developers to pitch feature proposals to the player base before we commit our time and effort into developing them. We wouldn't want to waste an entire year developing something the players aren't going to like. With the feedback and your opinions which you'll hopefully leave in the comments we may get an idea of what the player base actually wants which will hopefully influence our decision on said feature. In this first Dev Diary, I shall focus on everything you see just before starting a new game – the Main Menu & Player Creation. And be warned, this entire Dev Diary is just the Main Menu & Player Creation. We actually start playing the mod in the second Dev Diary so stick around for when that comes out. (Please let me know if any of the links and/or images are broken) Starting off the mod, you arrive at the main menu screen. The character you see to the left is described as a Sith Witch though canonically she is a Sith Sorcerer, do know that she is not the main antagonist of the mod. Similar to Kotor II, there shall be a group of Sith who you will encounter throughout your journey, including the Sith Twins you encountered all the way back in the Demo, this Torguta character on the main screen, and more Sith who are yet to be announced. Many of the characters introduced in the ROR mod have unique and innovative designs, this character is based on a heavily modified variant of Kreia’s model. You can see the Darth Traya-style Sith Robes she’s wearing though her head has been heavily modified to resemble a Torguta. Here is a side by side comparison that shows you what I'm describing. This character will rely on Force attacks when you battle her in-game as she is a Sorceress, whereas the Sith Twins from the Demo will focus on melee combat as they're both Sith Assassins. As you can see in the screenshot, her head Montrals and Lekku head tails are short, similar to . They’re probably like this because the game would have trouble rendering/animating Shaak Ti sized Montrals and Lekkus (or at least they would back in 2011 when this character was made). And just for anyone who's curious, someone actually did try to make a Shaak Ti head for Kotor and this and this was the result... I'm sure you can see why we're sticking with our current appearance. Since we can't add a proper Shaak Ti sized head for this character, she'll probably be young, around the player character’s age, in-game when you encounter her to explain her appearance. And for any of you who still aren't sold on her appearance... just know that Disney's done worse by having Ahsoka's character design go from this to . This character is similar to Darth Sion in that she's on the menu for the start of the game but will be replaced by another, much stronger, character as the game progresses. I believe @Logan23 showcased the next Sith Lord who appears on the main menu on Moddb back in the day, which I shall once again showcase here. This character is based off Atris' cut Darth Traya model. She is another Sith Sorceress and is paired together with the Sith Torguta, I imagine this character would be the Torguta’s Master and would be a lot stronger than the Torguta. This later character also isn’t the big main bad guy of the mod, there’s more characters who’ll replace her on the main menu screen. Now I know it’s possible to set the menus manually via the config in the main game folder, though do know that these later characters have not yet been implemented into the menu as of right now – though there is a bug where if you try messing with the config. This is probably a remnant of Thor110’s Expanded Galaxy mod… speaking of which! The ROR mod will now utilize ported assets from the first game as porting has been allowed in our modding community since 2018. Thor110’s ported K1 modules from the Expanded Galaxy mod will be used to make new areas for the ROR mod whether it be reskinning K1 areas to make new areas for new planets or possibly even allowing you to revisit areas from the first game (emphasis on “possibly”). Thor110 has also improved the menus for the ROR mod. Kotor I’s menus are blue, Kotor II’s menus are green, the menus in The Jedi Master’s and Edge of Darkness mods are both red, and ROR’s menus are orange... or at least they're supposed to be. To demonstrate the extent of Thor110's improvements to ROR's menus, here is a screenshot showing the skill menu during the player creation menu. On the top is how the skill menu used to look like back in the old Demo, and below is how the skill menu looks today. Thor110 has also released other menu colour mods for Kotor II which you can see in the links embedded in the text. If you would like see ROR’s orange menus released as a standalone mod for Kotor II, let us know in the comment section of this Dev Diary and we might consider releasing the ROR menu to the public should the mod team agree to it. Unlike in the Demo, this mod has proper loading screens for all the modules you shall be visiting. The legal load screen and the default load screen are still untouched from the Demo and will need modern redesigns, though other than those two you'll have new load screens based off JC's Loadscreen Template for K2 meaning these load screens will be accurate to the ones you see in Kotor II. We shall see more of them in upcoming dev diaries, this heavily outdated load screen from the 2020 build should give you a taste of what's to come. Moving on to the player character selection screen: The player options are virtually unchanged from the Demo, you'll still have over 50 player heads to choose from, including a plethora of alien heads, and the default clothing is still the K1 Jedi Robes. Though this could change in the future. We won’t be adding any more alien player variants, though we may add new alien NPC variants that you can encounter throughout the game. That means, for example, we won’t add Kel Dor players though we may add Kel Dor NPCs if the models and textures become available to us. The only exception to the “no new alien player variant” rule would be to add female Devaronians. We already the male Devaronian heads, and I hope one day that we can add a female equivalent for this species at some point. With the male Twi'lek player heads, something I never noticed was that they have a revamped head model. I thought this was added between 2011 and 2020 but it turns out these heads were in the Demo from the beginning. Incase you can't see it, the Twi'lek player's neck isn't fat like they are in the vanilla Kotor II - they normally look like this. What's really strange about the improved Twi'lek heads of the ROR mod is that, as of right now, only the Twi'lek players get these updated models - Twi'lek NPCs still have the default fat necked heads. I have previously shared the concept of ROR Submods called "Addons", these mods would be released separately to the main ROR mod but wouldn't work without the ROR mod. If you're still confused about how that would look, I previously shared a screenshot of the Yoda character "Ulon" with an updated model and texture from the High Quality Aliens: Master Vandar mod which is for Kotor I. If we get permission from Ashton Scorpius, a version of his mod, Better Male Twi'lek Heads, may be released as a ROR Addon to give your male Twi'lek player character and Twi'lek NPCs improved heads with 3D ears. I would also like to point out that there are also these Twi'lek head variants with head coverings. These Twi'leks are unique in that, similar to your underwear in the Kotor games, their head coverings actually changes color when you fall to the Dark Side. Here is a side by side of the Dark Side and Light Side Twi'lek with head coverings. Many of the player heads in ROR unfortunately do not have Dark Side transitions... yet. We hope to add these to the ROR mod through updates. Even though it isn't integrated into the ROR mod right now, most, if not all, of the human ROR players now have Dark Side transitions and they're available to the public right now through RedRob41's RoR Playable Humans for TSL mod. But if the lack of Dark Side transitions frightens you then do not worry - for you won't be able to completely fall to the Dark Side in the first ROR release without cheating. Another possible change we are considering for the player character would be the player clothing. The K1 Robe clothing was a unique element of the ROR Demo back in the day as porting between Kotor I and Kotor II wasn’t allowed back then, the ROR mod got past the no porting rule due to the fact that the K1 Robe models and the brown K1 Robe texture were actually hidden with Kotor II’s game files and thus could be used without porting. And just like the robes, quite a few K1 heads were also hidden within the Kotor II game files. In this blog post by Sith Holocron, you can see in the K2 heads section that there are a few K1 heads like PFHC03 - you obviously can't play as PFHC03 in Kotor II but both the head model and texture was buried in the game files meaning it isn't considered porting if you were to mod it into your game. You can also notice a few white heads in Sith Holocron's list, these are heads who's models are in the game files but their textures are not. That means you can use the head PMHB04 without porting but if you were to grab his texture from Kotor II then it would be porting. So if that's the case, you might be wondering how we used PMHB04 back in 2011 without porting the K1 texture. From what I understand of the process, RedRob41 was able to use this head model without the K1 texture by mapping out the model's UV layout in a separate mudding program. Once he had the UV layout, he was able to take samples from the textures of Kotor II player heads and he was able to literally stitch together a brand new texture using only the Kotor II head textures - this method is called "Photo Sourcing" I believe. But alas, porting is no longer an issue in our modding community and such measures are no longer necessary going forward. So you might be wondering how this relates to our K1 Robe Clothing? Well, now that porting is allowed I’m sure many of the new and younger players of the ROR mod won’t find the K1 Robe Clothing as impressive as it was back when porting was a cultural taboo. Whilst he may not share this view in particular, Logan23 has expressed a desire to get rid of these K1 Robe Clothing and his reasoning is simple - he wants to use player heads as NPCs just like how Obsidian used player heads for various NPCs across Kotor II… but he can’t do that because the default clothing for the ROR players as NPCs will always be the K1 Jedi Robes. So to prevent you from walking into a Cantina full of people wearing Jedi Robes, Logan gave these NPCs different armors. Below is an example of two NPCs with the player appearances as NPCs, if they were given clothing they'd both be wearing the K1 Robe Clothing as seen above. And if you follow this link, you'll see what a Cantina full of these NPCs would look like - you simply can't tell who's a bounty hunter, who's a commoner, or if anyone in this room has a special sidequest as literally everyone in this screenshot sticks out like a sore thumb. I would like to make this clear, we have not touched the player clothing just yet - though we also haven't used player appearances for NPCs either due to the above mentioned problem. Just as there are now alien player head options, most of these aliens will be available as generic heads meaning there will be aliens on Corellia who'll not only wear proper clothes, but they won't reuse a player head option. So right now, we are torn between three different options in regards to the player's clothing moving forward: Option 1) Remove the K1 Jedi Robes and restore the vanilla default clothing, meaning your clothes will look like this again - what Logan23 wants. Option 2) Keep the K1 Jedi Robes and simply don't use ROR players as NPCs - what RedRob41 wants. Option 3) My own personal compromise between these two positions. In the spoiler below will be my very own proposal for a radical rework of how Jedi Robes work as an item in the ROR mod. If you don't care about this then feel free to skip the spoiler and continue on with the Dev Diary, though it would be greatly appreciated if you would hear me out and leave your opinions on the proposal in the comment section. For those of you who like my proposal, I may consider making this proposal a separate Kotor II mod as a means of testing how this proposal would actually work in-game. Even if you don't think this should be added to ROR, there might still be a really good mod idea to come from all of this. In terms of attributes and skills, there haven’t been any changes that I know of, though if you think there’s good reason to change something like attributes and class skills etc, we’d love to hear your case. Much like in Kotor II, the attributes and skills you pick can appear in your dialogue response options if said attribute or skill is high enough. So whilst we haven’t yet added droids to repair or terminals to slice into, the Computer Use and Repair skill can both be helpful in certain dialogues and can even help you in influencing droid or computer-expert companions in dialogue, so there’s a good reason to invest in your skills in this mod. Here is an example of the Awareness skill appearing in dialogue: Feats and Force Powers will undergo some changes in the ROR mod. For starters, I believe Logan23 has gone through and changed many of the Feat and/or Force Power requirements so that you need to be a higher level than you would in Kotor I or Kotor II. This is to prevent your young, inexperienced Padawan character from getting Force Storm on the fourth planet as well as to prevent you from getting Wound and Force Shock in front of Drayen during the first mission to Corellia. Below is a second one of my "totally not controversial" proposals, feel free to skip over it if you don't want to hear it but we would appreciate it if you gave us your feedback on this idea. The above is just a proposal, if the player base approves of these concepts we may one day add them, if they strongly oppose them we don’t, and if people give their own ideas on how to improve/rework these proposals these could also be taken into consideration. But what does the ROR mod add in terms of feats right now? Well… Players will receive a feat based on their species, we will talk more about these feats in the next Dev Diary though do know that these feats will be used by NPCs to determine the player’s species, allowing these NPCs to react your species via dialogue. Here is a screenshot of an NPC reacting to a Miraluka player, the same species that Visas Marr is in Kotor II: Let's say if Gorton Colu was in the mod, he’d be able to recognize if you’re a human or not… your species is no longer a cosmetic choice, you can be rewarded or punished for the species you have chosen at random points in the mod. Obviously a racist like Gorton Colu isn’t going to like a Twi’lek player, though a Twi’lek character might be equally discriminative towards a human player than they would to a fellow Twi’lek. Oh, and don't forget how I previously mentioned how almost every alien you can play as will also have alien NPC commoner variants, so expect dialogue and NPC encounters to get... spicy throughout your playthrough. This feature will be discussed at greater length in the next Dev Diary. There is currently a bug where the player will still receives the War Veterans feat, even though the player isn’t a War Veteran we'll most likely keep the Feat by renaming it to imply something else so you can get those sweet 30 Vitality Points at the start of the game that this feat gives you. And with that, the Dev Diary comes to a close. Please let us know in the comments of this thread what you think, and feel free to stick around for more updates and Dev Diaries for the ROR mod – a mod we hope will be yours to play soon.