Pavijan357

On 6/16/2022 at 4:44 PM, Domino5555 said:

I found your Balance Tweak Pack on the Reddit KOTOR 2 mod build: kotor2modbuildfull - kotor (reddit.com)

I was wondering if the AC Bonus Fix would be compatible with the mods in this build. Would you know anything about this? I'd ask on the Reddit, but the thread on the mod build to ask questions was blocked to me for some reason.

Hi, sorry for a bit late reply,

yes, it should be compatible with almost every mod if you install it at the end.

10 hours ago, Domino5555 said:

"I play-tested this mod with:
a) unoptimized LS melee character made by fist-time novice player from the save I found on the net – on the "Normal" game difficulty,
b) optimized DS force-focused character of mine – on the "Difficult" game difficulty. "

What do you mean by "optimized", exactly?

"Optimized" means that the character build (feats and attributes) was planned to be as powerful as possible.

On 12/6/2020 at 6:47 PM, Domino5555 said:

I meant the definition of AC values.

Ah, I  forgot that KOTOR refreres to AC as Defense in the description.

It is still referred as AC (Armor Class) in the game files, which is leftover from Neverwinter Nights.

So there you go, AC bonus for the class is simply the bonus that any character  (PC or NPC)  has to the Defense value based on his class and level.

I will update description to make it more clear.

7 hours ago, Domino5555 said:

What are AC values again?

Sith Lord had a AC bonus of 22 and Sith Marauder had 14, which was not in the line with both their progression on the earlier levels (Marauder has more AC for all levels 1-49) and corresponding Jedi class lvl 50 AC bonus values (22 for Jedi Weapon Master and 14 for Jedi Master).

On 11/19/2020 at 8:20 PM, wertwert5555 said:

Does this mod prevent you from completing the Jedi Redemption quest? IIRC, TSLRCM adding the Jedi thief gave new dialogue with Suulru, and if you had Kreia in your party she would defend the Jedi as having sacrificed themselves for people like Suulru. That would update the Jedi Redemption quest, and if you did more sidequests in the settler's favor you would eventually complete the quest.

I checked the scripts and it looks that, as long you have TSLRCM installed, if you have the the quest in your journal and you finish the main quest on Dantooine in the LIGHT side way (protect the settlers from the mercenaries and save the Administrator) quest should complete regardless of how much sidequests you have done by then.

Tweak pack doesn't change that in any way.

On 7/4/2020 at 1:30 PM, La Ingobernable said:

2) In the restored dialogue between Atris and “Last of the Handmaidens” (that shows up if it is the Atris the one that sends her with the male Exile) there is the line, told by Atris, about how the fact that she has been sent with the Exile by Atris and reason why, should both be kept as secret from her sisters, but in the very next scene Atris tells them both of those things herself, therefore I removed that contradictory line.
Only that one line is removed, the rest of the restored dialogue is not touched.

 

I fail to understand why this was included at all and not even made optional, since as of now you cannot have 1) without 2). Atris asked the Handmaiden to keep it a secret so as to make her sisters believe her, Atris, and not the Handmaiden. In the next scene, what she says is "Her reasons are unknown to me. But I fear she may no longer be trusted". There's nothing contradictory here. There's manipulation and lies, but no contradiction.

What makes no sense is removing that line, so that there's no reason for the Handmaiden not to tell her sisters, and then have her sisters not know why she left.

Upon reevaluating the conditions for that conversation to appear and replaying the game,  I realized that it does in fact make some sense within the general context, so you will be glad to know that I removed Atris-Handmaiden part from the Component 5 in the latest 1.3 version.

On 11/19/2020 at 8:20 PM, wertwert5555 said:

Does this mod prevent you from completing the Jedi Redemption quest? IIRC, TSLRCM adding the Jedi thief gave new dialogue with Suulru, and if you had Kreia in your party she would defend the Jedi as having sacrificed themselves for people like Suulru. That would update the Jedi Redemption quest, and if you did more sidequests in the settler's favor you would eventually complete the quest.

No, it does not prevent the "Jedi Redemption" completion as far as I know.
I think you have enough sidequests to complete it even without this one.

On 3/25/2020 at 1:46 AM, SovereignXII said:

I did it lightside and was just given a saber upgrade.

I checked this and yes, Jorran gave the lightsaber part only if you bought the Jedi items from him in the scavenger camp, otherwise he just gave lightsaber upgrades.
Fix for this added in the version 1.2.4.

On 2/13/2020 at 9:16 AM, losemi said:

might I suggest a change in dialogue between atris and Brianna's sisters, the one in telos academy where atris tells Brianna to go with the exile and tells her that it must be kept a secret even from her sister and then in the very next scene she reveals that secret to her sister. it was a glaring contradiction so I think the vanilla dialogue where she tells them she doesn't know why she left would have been better.

Removed the contradictory line in the version 1.2.4.

On 2/13/2020 at 9:16 AM, losemi said:

might I suggest a change in dialogue between atris and Brianna's sisters, the one in telos academy where atris tells Brianna to go with the exile and tells her that it must be kept a secret even from her sister and then in the very next scene she reveals that secret to her sister. it was a glaring contradiction so I think the vanilla dialogue where she tells them she doesn't know why she left would have been better.

I do not notice that detail. Will check it out next time.

On 3/15/2020 at 5:32 AM, CyberNinjaZero said:

I Know this is a year after the last update but... in regards to the whole "Kreia Atris" conversation I point to this video 

It proves that Kreia is able to place Mental suggestions, appear before people, talk with them then make them forget the conversation and only remember it when she wants them to/allows it. I think this scene clarifies how Kreia could have done the same to Atris

"but in those dialogue line it is implied that she actively advocated for the Exile to be removed from the Jedi order which can not be done by someone who is invisible and unnoticeable  to the whole Council  at that point and therefore can not interact and influence them in any meaningful way." I would like to rebut this the scene only says that she told Atris to Exile the PC ("I did as you asked" instead of "we") and as the Disciple example shows she is very capable of doing that. The way I read the scene in this context is "Kreia talks with Atris/leaves a mental suggestion, makes her forget then in the 'Quiet thing to fall scene' makes her remember"

This also applies to the @iPlissken from several years ago

I rephrased my self in original comment.

I know that Kreia is a manipulator and a liar, and I am perfectly aware of Kreia's abilities and the fact that she is able to influence someone while being unseen.

The point is that particular line that has been added by TSLRCM goes like this:
"I was the one who asked him to be exiled."

So it was ASKED, not "influenced" or "suggested". The line implies that she was there as an active participant of the trial, not that she was manipulating people from the shadow (which could MAYBE be possible but it was not what was implied here).

That particular line does not fit the story as it is presented in the final form and that is not only my sentiment but the most likely the one of the game developers, who deliberately cut that line, not because of any bug or time constraints (because VO was always there, it would be several seconds of work to activate the line), but for  no other reason than because they simply felt that it doesn't make sense...

On 3/12/2020 at 7:37 PM, SovereignXII said:

@Pavijan357 I don't think your Jorran fix works. I have TSLRCM 1.8.5 and your 1.2.3 version of this mod. Removed Kaeve (both components) and Jorran didn't give me a saber part.

Did you resolve the quest in a Light side or or Dark side way?

Because last time I played and killed him I got the lightsaber part .

Will check it out soon anyway.

Is there anything that would need to be done for full compatibility with 1.8.5, Pavijan357?

Nope.

It was compatible with TSLRCM 1.8.5 version, but just in case  I updated the files to that version, so now there's no doubt.

Is that OK to install this tweak pack after Rebuild Enclave? No conflicts? 

There shouldn't be any. There are no files modified by both of them.

The idea that Kreia asked for the Exile to be exiled produces a whole load of logical and narrative problems if you think about it.

 

I'm sure it got cut on purpose, as part of the earlier draft of the story, when Atris was on Malachor, and Kreia and Atris' roles were somewhat reversed. (Interestingly, you can still find audio in the game's files of what is now Kreia's dialogue but recorded by Atris' actress).

Exactly.

What were the exact lines You removed from Kreia-Attris dialogue? The case is - as far as I know from Wookiepedia - they could refer to the fact that Kreia was there not physically, but in ATRIS'es MIND. Just want to be sure before I get to the end.

Lines that were removed were  those that imply that she was there and that she ASKED for her(him) to be exiled, which, as we find out from Jedi Masters, doesn't make sense in context of the story.