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For my participation in Cathalan, it started from me complaining about the NPCs having an orange tint to them - and it's a criticism I just kept repeating and mocking him for over the years, particularly in one thread here where I publicly aired some drama (that I ultimately instigated) and posted a review video of Cathalan for the sole purpose of mocking him. It's something I deeply regret. I'm still not 100% sure of what my motives were back then, but I know that I had the wrong attitude toward him and his mod. I agree with what LDR has said, it was a great idea and had the potential to be something great and special, and I'd love to see Cathalan get an update and for Jaevyn to be in good standing with the community again some day. I don't know how that will all happen, but I think we can start by changing our disposition towards Jaevyn and Cathalan - offering up constructive feedback and taking a more positive stance on the mod - at least for anyone who hasn't already started doing that. For this, I think you are on the right track @LDR @Basil Bonehead I recall your stream testing 90SK's Edge of Darkness was pretty fair and helpful, I'd recommend reviewing Cathalan with that same positive lens.

Sometimes I feel bad when I tear apart Cathalan, because clearly at some point there was a really great idea and a lot of thought went behind it. But the fact of the matter is for whatever scope, grandeur and ambition that the mod author Jaevyn had, he had precisely none of that in quality control, quality assurance, bug testing, and responsiveness to feedback. I recall Jaevyn flaming many people who had differing opinions on his mod. How dare you say anything that isn't complete praise on his beautiful darling baby Cathalan! In all seriousness though, Cathalan had the potential to be great and something really special. Unfortunately, Jaevyn's ego and his insistence that the mod was perfect the way it was despite serious concerns brought on by the community (using copyrighted music, numerous game-breaking bugs, inconsistent VO quality, the orange filter, various plot holes, amongst other minor things) really sealed the deal for Cathalan becoming the butt of jokes in the community. If only he was a nice guy, things could've turned out a lot differently. It's a shame. It really is.