Jason777 0 Posted January 6, 2015 Hi! I'm new here. Before I start, let me give some details about my computer that I believe will be relevent: I have 64-bit computer running Windows 8.1 I have the Steam version of KotOR 1 I have Comodo Antivirus installed So, I downloaded KSE v3.3.5 in order to try to modify a save in order to get around the Black Vulkar garage elevator bug present in the K1R mod. Whenever I click on the executable, it simply refuses to start. Here are the things I have checked for in order to try to get this to run: I made sure that I had a string variable for "Path" located in the registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\BioWare\SW\KOTOR" which pointed to my installation direction at "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\swkotor" I have ran the program "As Administrator" All the necessary DLLs are in the folder with KSE I disabled all antivirus software After many hours spent crawling through the web coming across similar problems concerning KSE and their fixes, I have found that none have worked. So, I decided to try to do a little digging myself. I brought up the Windows Event Logs in order to find any information concerning KSE's execution... Here I have the error log with an event ID of 1000: Faulting application name: kse_335.exe, version: 3.3.5.0, time stamp: 0x50a21a5d Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x04441427 Faulting process id: 0x1a78 Faulting application start time: 0x01d029685a865d9f Faulting application path: D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\kse_335.exe Faulting module path: unknown Report Id: 9851eb3f-955b-11e4-beec-74d02be969ef Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Here I have the information log with an event ID of 1001: Fault bucket 73782827651, type 1 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: kse_335.exe P2: 3.3.5.0 P3: 50a21a5d P4: StackHash_5861 P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 00000000 P7: c0000005 P8: PCH_BB_FROM_ntdll+0x0003CEEC P9: P10: Attached files: C:\Users\Jason\AppData\Local\Temp\WER60C1.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml These files may be available here: C:\Users\Jason\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_kse_335.exe_d1e36562483d248e416cbf9ffc5331e24c21_49b6af7b_0cd36370 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: 9851eb3f-955b-11e4-beec-74d02be969ef Report Status: 0 Hashed bucket: ebc3874def85e5c6113064259fa99e3a And here I have a small report that was generated: Version=1 EventType=APPCRASH EventTime=130649917368338043 ReportType=2 Consent=1 UploadTime=130649917369275556 ReportIdentifier=9851eb40-955b-11e4-beec-74d02be969ef IntegratorReportIdentifier=9851eb3f-955b-11e4-beec-74d02be969ef WOW64=1 NsAppName=kse_335.exe Response.BucketId=ebc3874def85e5c6113064259fa99e3a Response.BucketTable=1 Response.LegacyBucketId=73782827651 Response.type=4 Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=kse_335.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=3.3.5.0 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=50a21a5d Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=StackHash_5861 Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=0.0.0.0 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=00000000 Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0000005 Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=PCH_BB_FROM_ntdll+0x0003CEEC DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=6.3.9600.2.0.0.768.101 DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID DynamicSig[2].Value=1033 DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1 DynamicSig[22].Value=5861 DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2 DynamicSig[23].Value=5861822e1919d7c014bbb064c64908b2 DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3 DynamicSig[24].Value=a10f DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4 DynamicSig[25].Value=a10ff7d2bb2516fdc753f9c34fc3b069 UI[2]=D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\kse_335.exe UI[3]=KotOR//KotOR2 Savegame Editor v3.3.5 has stopped working UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem. UI[5]=Check online for a solution and close the program UI[6]=Check online for a solution later and close the program UI[7]=Close the program LoadedModule[0]=D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\kse_335.exe LoadedModule[1]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll LoadedModule[2]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL LoadedModule[3]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll LoadedModule[4]=C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.9600.17415_none_a9ed7f470139b3c1\COMCTL32.dll LoadedModule[5]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\USER32.dll LoadedModule[6]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ADVAPI32.dll LoadedModule[7]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSVCRT.dll LoadedModule[8]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\GDI32.dll LoadedModule[9]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll LoadedModule[10]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\RPCRT4.dll LoadedModule[11]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SspiCli.dll LoadedModule[12]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll LoadedModule[13]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\bcryptPrimitives.dll LoadedModule[14]=C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL LoadedModule[15]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCTF.dll LoadedModule[16]=C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\guard32.dll LoadedModule[17]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll LoadedModule[18]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\PSAPI.DLL LoadedModule[19]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\fltlib.dll LoadedModule[20]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntmarta.dll LoadedModule[21]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WS2_32.dll LoadedModule[22]=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\NSI.dll LoadedModule[23]=D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\libstdc++-6.dll LoadedModule[24]=D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1 State[0].Value=1 FriendlyEventName=Stopped working ConsentKey=APPCRASH AppName=KotOR//KotOR2 Savegame Editor v3.3.5 AppPath=D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335\kse_335.exe NsPartner=windows NsGroup=windows8 ApplicationIdentity=555285055932281FD2CFEB17A500F044 Taking a look at the logs, I can see that an exception value of 0xc0000005 was thrown. A quick lookup tells me that this was thrown due to invalid memory access. I tried to remedy this by turning of "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" for the KSE executable. This did not change a thing. With the knowledge that this was due to invalid memory RW, I decided to venture a bit further in order to try and find the problem. I decided to attach OllyDbg to kse_335.exe to see if there might be only a single line in the program's disassembly that may be the culprit. I found one such opcode to be causing problems: As can be seen in the image above, there is indeed some sort of memory violation. However... simply NOP'ing or disabling that one line only brings me to many other opcodes that access invalid memory. It seems that the problem is not easily fixable by small machine code rewrites unfortunately. Sadly, I could not tell you the significance of the instruction at 0x04441427 or any of the others after it. However, I guess the point of this post was to show that there's something seriously wrong with the KSE on Windows 8.1 (at the very least) on 64-bit machines. I do have the source code though, so I could try sniffing out the bugs by scouring through lines and lines of Perl, but that would take a while. Does anyone have any easy fix for this? Also, you could tell me how to manually modify save values with a hex editor if it'll save me time and I don't have to worry about checksums or something. I tried opening up GLOBALVAR.res with HxD and modifying the save value for "Tar_VulkarElevator" by going to 0x90AD and changing the value there, but that didn't seem to fix anything. Like I said, I'm new to modding KotOR, so I'm not sure if there's something I'm totally missing here... EDIT: Actually, I would imagine it would be beneficial if someone (Fair Strides?) could tell me what all I need to compile the source, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair Strides 508 Posted January 6, 2015 Hello, Jason. I'm the one who made KSE 3.3.5, and so am here to help you out. First off, that's an impressive amount of digging! Second, can you post the KSE_Log.txt results? Third, have you tried running KSE from a commandline and seeing if errors pop-up? Lastly, have you tried following the "Hard-coding" steps from here: http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/478-dll-files-for-fair-strides-tools/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason777 0 Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks for the fast reply! I have tried adding the directory in which the correct DLLs are contained to my path but that didn't seem to change anything. Running from command prompt is exactly the same (no hint as to what the error is): D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335>cmd.exe Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600] (c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335>kse_335.exe D:\KotOR\Programs\KSE_v335> And unfortunately, there is no error log that is generated. Looking at the error event log I quoted in my previous post, I can see that the program crashes before loading "perl516.dll"... Is there something I should I have installed before running this program? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair Strides 508 Posted January 6, 2015 In that case, I'd advise in setting compatibility to Windows 7 or XP and trying that. Short of that, send me the save via PM and I'll be sure to edit it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason777 0 Posted January 6, 2015 Unfortunately, running in compatibility mode didn't seem to change anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyronl 0 Posted September 24, 2015 I just wanted to say I am also having the same issue. Further however, I can't even extract KSe336.exe from the .7z Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fair Strides 508 Posted September 24, 2015 Well, the newest version is 3.3.7a, so you might delete KSE from you system and re-download from here on DS. Then you can try that and if it doesn't work, post the KPF Log, KSE.ini, and KSE Log files to here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyronl 0 Posted September 24, 2015 Will do. I have actually been trying to find it here, but haven't managed to yet. nvm I was being dense and looking in forums rather than downloads Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guibaesa 15 Posted September 28, 2015 I have a very ancient problem with the KSE: Each time i tried to add and save a new feat and/or new force power to a character, not mine, the NPC ones, and i do it in a save that im inside the Ebon Hawk, the changes seemed to apply on the save, but..., when i enter the save, the simply aren't there. Every time i want to add something to my NPC´s, i have to do it outside the Ebon Hawk. That's very frustrating. Can somebody fix this please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
