Similarities between Revan and Thrawn

[Mandalore 61]

I noticed these, and Sith Holocron asked if I could elaborate - indeed I can.

 

Revan invaded the Republic in order to ensure he could defend it from the true Sith Empire when it invaded - this is the same reason Thrawn invaded the New Republic (the Chiss knew of threats beyond the known galaxy, thus Thrawn sought to prepare for them).

 

Revan understood that war was not won with weapons and physical war, but in the hearts and minds of those fighting - to me, this sounds like a Force-Sensitive's improvement on Thrawn's use of psychology and the subconscious influences on his enemies' tactics.

 

Also, the argument could be made that Revan is the first, and most effective, follower of relativism as a philosophy of Force use since the Je'daii of Tython, as he was prepared to do whatever he could (regardless of how the Jedi Order perceived its alignment within the Force) if it meant protecting those he fought for - this is the Force-Sensitive's approach to Thrawn's "whatever necessary to protect those who depend".

 

I'm pretty sure I saw more at the time, but it was about 2:20 in the morning and several days ago - if more comes to me, I'll post it.

[Fair Strides 509]

I noticed these, and Sith Holocron asked if I could elaborate - indeed I can.

 

Revan invaded the Republic in order to ensure he could defend it from the true Sith Empire when it invaded - this is the same reason Thrawn invaded the New Republic (the Chiss knew of threats beyond the known galaxy, thus Thrawn sought to prepare for them).

 

Revan understood that war was not won with weapons and physical war, but in the hearts and minds of those fighting - to me, this sounds like a Force-Sensitive's improvement on Thrawn's use of psychology and the subconscious influences on his enemies' tactics.

 

Also, the argument could be made that Revan is the first, and most effective, follower of relativism as a philosophy of Force use since the Je'daii of Tython, as he was prepared to do whatever he could (regardless of how the Jedi Order perceived its alignment within the Force) if it meant protecting those he fought for - this is the Force-Sensitive's approach to Thrawn's "whatever necessary to protect those who depend".

 

I'm pretty sure I saw more at the time, but it was about 2:20 in the morning and several days ago - if more comes to me, I'll post it.

 

VERY interesting theories man. I've wondered about Revan for some time, especially his philosophy on the Force. Could you give me more info on this relativism thing? I've often found myself in agreement with this viewpoint. That's why I'm a chaotic neutral on RPGs.

[Mandalore 61]

Relativism is the belief that no Force power is inherently light or dark, what makes its alignment is how and why it's used - by the time of the New Jedi Order, this was an acceptable viewpoint (Kyle Katarn teaches this in Jedi Academy), but before, it was considered wrong and potentially very dangerous, thus Masters were instructed to stamp this view out quickly if any Padawans believed it (The Jedi Path states that it leads to adherants believing they are always right, making them arrogant and setting them on the path to the Dark Side).

[Fair Strides 509]

Relativism is the belief that no Force power is inherently light or dark, what makes its alignment is how and why it's used - by the time of the New Jedi Order, this was an acceptable viewpoint (Kyle Katarn teaches this in Jedi Academy), but before, it was considered wrong and potentially very dangerous, thus Masters were instructed to stamp this view out quickly if any Padawans believed it (The Jedi Path states that it leads to adherants believing they are always right, making them arrogant and setting them on the path to the Dark Side).

Yep, definitely has my vote! This was just reinforced by a Mira and FemExile fanfic I read months ago. You want a link?

[Mandalore 61]

OK - if it helps understand the Force, it can't be bad.

[Mandalore 61]

Another one, this time came to me at 2:44 AM.

 

Both Revan and Thrawn failed for the same reason - they were both stabbed in the back (literally, for Thrawn) at the moment of their victory (Revan himself wasn't stopped, but he would've won if Scourge hadn't killed the Exlie).