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TSL | Missing animations in head models...
Piscencius replied to Piscencius's topic in General Kotor/TSL Modding
What a cluster! :° When I was reassigning weights around, I indeed noticed some very weird associations like the ones you mentioned (lower teeth influencing left eyelid and cheek, must be irritating in daily life...) but I naively assumed it was supposed to be that way. I'm going to try to work my way through this chaos, because I like challenges. And if he game prove to really not be worth the candle, I'll fall back on the PMHA05 head. By the way, II found the Select Vertices By Bone command and bound it to a hotkey. I think it's going to save me a precious time. I'll get back to you with an update on my progress. Thanks a ton for the help man! -
TSL | Missing animations in head models...
Piscencius replied to Piscencius's topic in General Kotor/TSL Modding
Hhaa! Nice monster gallery you got here! I tried and did as you said but that didn't solve the issue. I think this problem is tied to this particular head model skeleton. See how it appears in Max, no matter how many times I export-recompile-decompile : And here are other head models within Max for comparison purpose. The bones are all collected in the face, whether there are haircards or not : What are your thoughts on this ? -
TSL | Missing animations in head models...
Piscencius replied to Piscencius's topic in General Kotor/TSL Modding
Yes, I figured out swapping Supermodels was a bad idea from the get go, but I wanted to explore all the possibilities before posting here. I played a little more with the model last night and it turned out that I was actually using MDLOps incorrectly all along. I would typically use the "Replacer" function and then hit the "Do it!" button without thinking too much about it, instead of simply using the "Read and Write" function. This misuage stemed from the process of making a custom lightsaber hilt. The problem actually lied there, because the head model indeed recovered its facial animations in-game! Nonetheless,I observed it what slightly offsetted... hence the need for HeadFixer. After that finding, I got a little carried away and decided to start all over with another head model (because I frankly grew bored of the PMHA05 dull looking face). So I loaded the PMHB06 model into Max, and began to work on it. After geometry editing last night, I spent a big chunk of this morning correcting the skin weights. I then decided to test it in-game and saw a monstruous creature instead of a handsome guy in the character selection screen. The mesh was distorted as if it had been pinched and pulled something like one meter above the head of my character... :c I opened back Max and immediately saw what was causing the issue.Several bones associated to the hair cards were hovering way up above the actual head. I exported again a "clean" PMHB06 model from KTools just to make sure it was me who screwed up... but alas, in Max, there were the exact same bones at the same location. This seems like it's a problem of another magnitude as I don't exactly know how to correct such things inside Max or even if I'm allowed to regarding the way TSL handles the head models... I'll see what I can do about it but I may be hlepless one that one. Thanks for your dedication and helpfulness anyway! Thanks for the info! Perhaps by the time I manage to sort all this out the tools will be out! -
TSL | Missing animations in head models...
Piscencius replied to Piscencius's topic in General Kotor/TSL Modding
Haha! Thank both of you anyway for your quick replies, really appreciate it. @ JCarter426 : Yeah, Google tricked me on that one too... I'll download HeadFixer just in case I need it in the future. Thanks a lot man! @ DarthParametric : Thanks a lot for the in-depth explanations. Regarding the AuroraBase, there is indeed a slot specifying a Supermodel which is by default set at S_Female02. I tested as is, or by modifying it to S_Male01 or S_Male02 out of pure curiosity, but that (obviously) didn't work the problem out so far... If that is the only viable solution at the moment, I could do without these extra vertice... It's not that big of a deal, all things considered. But still, I'm really curious about those new model compiling tools that you talked about. Could you expand a little bit more on those? What more will they bring regarding model compiling ? Is there a way to follow the development progress ? Thanks again. -
Hi everyone ! I'm new to the TSL modding party and I just joined this forum. Actually, I tried my hand at modding on KotOR last year with a simple head retexture followed by a much tougher seamlessly implemented custom lightsaber mod (that I thought I could maybe share online). I struggled a lot with this one and Deadly Stream forums, amongst others, were of a priceless help and I 'd like to thank you all for that. This time around is no different but despite all the infos I could find on the matter, I still could not solve my problem. So, right after beating KotOR for the second time last month, I decided to play through TSL too once again. So I dived head first into the creation of a main player head mod. I picked one that I liked in the TSL roster (i.e. PMHA05), extracted the model with Kotor Tool, imported it into 3ds Max, modified its geometry and corrected the skin weights to match those of the unmodified model. After that, I exported the model to test it in game, only to find out that, in the character selection screen, the modded head did not feature any facial animation. I then launched a new game to further test it, and there was indeed no facial animation playing at all. I came back to the max file, and saw that the aurorabase modifier wasn't featuring any animations in the animations list... And I discovered that in fact none of the head models contained animations. So I began my searches and came across numerous interesting threads on Deadly Streams: JCarter426's one called " Ripping heads from a full body model " (http://deadlystream.com/forum/topic/4507-ripping-heads-from-a-full-body-model/) in particular gave me some great insights about this problem and had me hope for a providential solution in a piece of software he calls " Head Fixer " in the thread that I've unfortunately been unable to find anywhere. This program would allow me to recover the animation back to the modded file. I also found a thread mentioning " Taira's Replacer " as a mean to get the animations back to the modded file. The only caveat to this method being that this utility doesn't allow for any vertex count change, however I have already been adding vertice to add resolution to the mesh and get a nicer silhouette, and I'd like to keep those modifications if possible. Being unsuccessfully experimenting and fiddling with the NWmax plugin, MDL Ops and even hex editing, I find myself out of ideas now... That's why I decided to go seek help directly here. So, do you guys have any thought on this ? Do you know of any way to recover the animations ? I'd be really grateful to JCarter426 or any of you guys if you could maybe give me a link to this " Head Fixer " program... In any case, thanks a lot for your attention !