InSidious

TSLRP: Not Quite A Post-Mortem

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Thanks for the write up. Even though I was only lurking (checking team gizka website every other month over years to see how far along the mod was), I still remember some of it vividly. From reading all those cut lines of dialogue a few weeks after I finished my first playthrough, to the excitement when TSLRP was announced, to the beta leak (was pretty hype to finally be able to play some restored content) and finally to that trailer which, at least to me, really marked the end of TSLRP. I am still very grateful to all the awesome folks (you really should have used some sick team name :P) who made TSLRCM happen (or the unrestored content mod as I remember first seeing it). Would have been a real shame if that leaked beta would have ended up being the closest thing to a proper k2 we ever got. The TSLRP beta was pretty sick at the time, but compared to TSLRCM it's pretty bad, especially with M4-78.

With the Genoharadan being in the works once again, it really does seem like Bao-Dur and the rest of the ending are all that's left. Someone should definitely write a book about the history of kotor 2, such a sick story and even after 13 years it's not over.

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@Qui-Gon Glenn 

That's fascinating, I have no idea. That way many years ago.

I certainly didn't stop them from finishing their work. 

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@Qui-Gon Glenn

That's fascinating, I have no idea. That way many years ago.

I certainly didn't stop them from finishing their work.

I agree that you didn't stop them from doing their work in any way. However, I also find it interesting that you deny nothing.

 

Curious.

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I agree that you didn't stop them from doing their work in any way. However, I also find it interesting that you deny nothing.

 

Curious.

 

Yes, I literally know nothing of my dealings then, seems sketchy but I was much younger and since I don't really remember just sticking with that. They didn't contact me or successfully get in touch with me about that as far as I know. 

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I had always wondered what happened with those teams. I was just getting into using mods and eagerly awaited TSLRP, despite the fact I knew the project was dead. I am so glad I found TSLRCM. The crew here has been awesome.

 

Somehow, I could tell that some of the folks working on TSLRP were jerks. Or at least not personable.

 

@90SK Personally, I don't care what did or didn't happen involving you. Your mod work is very good stuff.

 

@Stoney I recall watching the Nihilus vs Sion video that was posted on YouTube many years ago. I think it's your channel. That was an awesome thing to see at the time (it still is). I don't know if you recall this, but I also accidentally spammed a comment on that video (user: rebuiltHK47) because I didn't know that channel owners could set comments for their videos to be reviewed by the channel owner. I thought my internet, which was really really crappy at the time, was acting up and not sending it. You responded frustrated by it, and I attempted to be HK about it, and was working to apologize for it, and then the last response I got didn't make sense to me so I never said anything back. I'm glad you didn't give up on TSL, even if it was due to boredom.

 

I'm glad restoring TSL did not die with... them. And I'm glad M4-78 was improved on. When the final version of that was released, the one before RCM and EP, I always went there. It was... interesting. I could always see where things were supposed to be. I never got rid of it. It was fun going from that to the EP version. For me it was like going from Alpha to Finished game (whether some of it was made up or not).

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Sometime around the end of 2007 – beginning of 2008, a small group of regulars at the TSLRP/Team Gizka forums were asked by Dashus if we would join the final beta of the mod before release. Our job was to find bugs, report them, and post updates to the forum about our playthroughs. I forget who the original list consisted of, though most of the names would mean very little to people now. I do remember VarsityPuppet of this parish was one of us, alongside Qui-Gon Glenn, 90SK, Darth Windu, Miltiades, and… other people. They presumably had usernames and identities.

I was browsing through the forum pages on the web archive, and found the tester list here.

Archive.org actually has a bunch of threads saved (not a ton of stuff, but maybe someone might be interested) here.

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That list represents the second wave of testers (including me, Windu, Darathy, Skye and Miltiades) and some others that were added as a third wave.

The original testers had long bailed before our wave, and mostly Tupac Amaru was the only modder that was still actively working on the mod towards the end. I worked closely with him on a couple game breakers, and that was satisfying.

The TSLRP IRC was pretty cool, until Dashus went MIA. I remember the last communication I had with Dashus before I slammed him in my Farewell post. In the IRC were Dash, me and Darathy, and we were talking about Easter eggs. The conversation went nowhere, he wanted to do some Grim Fandango sh!t IIRC, and I had never played it and couldn't see any relevance. Insidious was patient - he could have helped the project a great deal if they had just let him. Le sigh.

Oh well, TSLRCM is real and it is now better, so no real loss in the end, but I spent a lot of time working on the TSLRP and was definitely bitter for a while.

I was also initially certain that zybl2 was another Darth Balor alt and that TSLRCM was doomed when he joined. Happily, that wasn't the case as far as I know, and and if he was and is the same guy it is a testament to genius :D

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