Unofficial TSLRCM Tweak Pack 1.2.3

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UNOFFICIAL TSLRCM (THE SITH LORDS RESTORATION MODIFICATION) TWEAK PACK
version 1.2.3


Author: Pavijan357


1. Description:
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As you all know, SW-KOTOR 2 : The Sith Lords is a brilliant game. Unfortunately, at the time of release, it was definitely a flawed game, because it was published in unfinished state.

Then came the people behind TSLRCM project and did what seemed impossible. After years hard work by all people involved in it, final result is here: TSLRCM 1.8.5 . KOTOR 2 is closer to its finished state and Obsidian's vision than ever before.

So, what is this than actually for? Well, the way I see it, instead of broken dirty gem TSL was before, now with TSLRCM, it's the large shinning diamond, just a little rough on the few edges. This is made to polish it around a little...

It's seems to me that in their vision to restore as much cut content, TSLRCM crew got a little carried away and restored even things that seem that weren't left out because of short development time, but actually CUT from game, because authors had some other and better ideas, or simple they didn't thought that those fit in the game in general way.
Now, I don't claim to know what was Obsidian's original vision better than anybody else, especially TSLRCM guys, but there are some things that bothered me during the playthrough and which seamed jarring and out of place to me, so I have made this Tweak Pack for my personal usage, and also for everyone else who feels the same way about those particular things.

Of course, this is ultimately thing of personal preference, so I have made this pack modular so you can install only things that you want and leave others as they are (modular parts are installed with TSL Patcher), but have also provided all-in-one setup for those that want it all.

 


Content of this pack consists of 5 main components and 3 small extras:

 

Component 1 - Jorran the extortionist instead of Kaeve the thief


As you probably know, TSLRCM returned cut character of padawan Kaeve, whose laigreks stole the farming equipment from farmer Suulru on Dantoine, instead of scavenger Jorran who insisted that Suulru should give him extra money for his vaporator, which was the case in published version of the game.

I like the general idea behind Kaeve and voice-over done for her by Usagi was fine, but main problem with her is that her dialog seams, well... not well written in the first place, it feels incomplete and not well thought through. It seems to me that she was abandoned in earlier part of production and wholy discarded as an idea, and that's why Obsidian eventually recorded voice-over for Jorran's and Suulru's new lines instead of making some for Keave. Don't get me wrong, TSLRCM crew did a good job of restoring what was in the files, but it seems that there wasn't lot of quality material to restore in the first place...

So this component returns whole Jorran/Suulru situation to what it was in published version of TSL and removes Keave from game altogether. This also returns lightsaber part to Jorran which he had originally, instead of Keave as in TSLRCM.


Component 2 - Saedhe's original head


If you played the game, you may remember Seadhe, Khoonda Militia investigator in Khoonda plains, Dantooine. In TSLRCM he is given cut unique head which was planned for him earlier, but my opinion, based on his voice in game, is that unique head was intentionally scrapped and in the  published version he got that of an old black guy to fit better with that voice.
So install this component if you would like to see his originally assigned head again.


Component 3 - No Mandalore falling on Ravager bridge


In old TSLRCM versions, after you defeat Darth Nihilus and your party is leaving Ravager's command bridge, Mandalore inexplicably stood on some invisible mine and fell on the ground. This has been done to make excuse for starting Mandalore/Visas conversation. Version 1.8.3 replaced mine with much more sensible Dark Side backslash from disappearing corpse of Nihilus, which actually looks fitting to a point, and could satisfy some people, but in case that you still want that whole part removed, like I do - this component is  here.

There is also spliced part on first Mandalore/Visas conversation upon boarding Ravager ("I know what it meant for you to accompany me here...") that should also, like the post-fight conversation between them, be left for some other mod which restores Ravager part to it's original concept (Mandalore and Visas go to Ravager alone, Exile joins them later) like Zbyl2's excellent "Ravager Rewrite" mod which will, I hope, be eventually updated for TSLRCM compatibility if he finds time and still has some desire for modding after his work on M4-78EP.

So, this component removes spliced part on first Mandalore/Visas conversation and whole bridge collapse/second conversation situation after Nihilus fight, so you can wait nicely until some future version "Ravager Rewrite", or some other mod, restores those lines more fittingly.


Component 4 - Atton’s ending dialogue


After you defeat final boss, in TSLRCM you (depending on your choices) get a few final conversations with some of your crew mates. Atton is one of them, and his conversations (in both possible versions) are great and emotionally satisfying. But they seem written only for lightside character and don't fit at all for cold-blooded bastard that you may have turned your Exile into!

Because of that, this component inserts extra requirements for this dialogs to happen: Exile must be lightside, neutral, or, mildly darkside with high influence with Atton (high req. for influence is only for slightly darkside chars to reflect situation when player is not entirely insensitive to suffering of those close to him and he got along with Atton nicely). So if your Exile matches any of those requirements you will get the dialog as it is until now, and if he/she doesn't - you will not be bothered with it.


Component 5 - Kreia - Atris dialog modification


During Kreia's visit to Atis on Telos, dialog between those two is one of the more important ones in the whole game because it gives lots of exposition on Kreia's motivation. TSLRCM added a few restored lines of dialogue to that scene  that do not seem to fit the story in it's final form.

Those are the lines that reference that Kreia was there during Exiles trial, and more important that she was the one who asked for her/him to be exiled. Which doesn't fit at all, because she was presumed dead since Mandalorian Wars by the Jedi Order at that time, and because of that she couldn't have asked that of the Jedi Council when (as we see in dialogue between them near the end) they weren't even aware that she survived! This seems to be a remnant of some old plot version that was abandoned during the production.

Thus this component removes that group of added lines from that dialogue (but keeps other ones that are not related to this issue).
Thanks to Markus Ramikin who has noticed this issue and informed me of it.


Extra components:


This small tweaks are separated as extras because they are not based on restorations or anything other than some thoughts of mine, or are probably insignificant to majority of players and made mostly for extra nitpicky crazies like myself.


Extra 1 - Trayus Sith Lords unified

This takes care of small thing that caught my eye - that Sith Lords in the left part of Trayus academy have their masks on, but those in the right part don't. This was probably  done intentionally,  possibly to provide more diversity, but what bothered me is that those without masks share the same head with Sith apprentices which are at few places found at the very same room (Yes, it bothers me, I'm that kind of guy [:p] ).
So, this only gives those few Sith Lords in Trays ac. the same masks that their "colleagues" in the other part have. Simply as that.


Extra 2 - Lower Awareness requirement for "Gand Warrior" quest

This lowers required Awareness skill level for solving the quest given by Suulustan in Jekk Jekk Tarr cantina, on Nar Shadaa, to 4 instead 16. Why so low? Because I think that 16 is really too much for such a trivial quest, and by making it as low as 4 it can be solved even by players who didn't focus on developing their Exile's Awareness, simply by equipping a few of skill boosting items, and maybe also casting Valor if needed.

 

2. Change list:
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Version 1.0 - 1.1 :
1) Updated for 1.8.3 version of TSLRCM - most important removed the "Nihilus always drains" optional component since the issue is addressed in TSLRCM 1.8.3
2) Compatibility patch for M4-78EP updated to M4-78EP 1.1 version of journal

Version 1.1 - 1.2:
Added Component 5 - Kreia - Atris dialog modification

Version 1.2 - 1.2.1:
1) Updated for 1.8.4 version of TSLRCM
2) Compatibility patch for M4-78EP updated to M4-78EP 1.2 version of journal

Version 1.2.1 - 1.2.2:
1) Updated files for 1.8.5 version of TSLRCM
2) New modular TSL Patcher-based installer (Individual component installer) made by Fair Strides which provides improved compatibility with number of other mods.

Version 1.2.2 - 1.2.3:
1) Fix by JC for the Kaevee Removal tweak. Previously, Jorran failed to drop the vaporator module on death, locking out the Farm Equipment quest.
2) Compatibility patch for M4-78EP is removed. Use Individual component installer version of this pack instead for full compatibility with M4-78EP.


3. Installation:
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To install this Tweak Pack, TSLRCM 1.8.3 or (eventual future newer version) MUST be installed. It is made for TSLRCM and without it, it has no point.

1)   If you're planning to install the complete installer version just run its URCMTP.exe and follow instructions. It's advisable to do it IMMIDIATELLY after TSLRCM installation. In that case if you plan to install some other mods after TSLRCM they won't be overwritten, and maximum compatibility is assured.

2)   If you're planning to install any of modular parts just run U_TSLRCM_TP_IND.exe and follow instructions. You need to run U_TSLRCM_TP_IND.exe once for each component you have to install.
For Component 1 ( Kaeve removal) BOTH parts must be installed for it to work properly.

Any component can be installed any time after TSLRCM installation.

 

4. Uninstallation
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Copy appropriate files from "backup" folder to their original places.

 

5. Mod Compatibility:
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Any mod that is compatible with TSLRCM is compatible with it's Tweak Pack.

If you plan to install M4-78EP it is strongly recommended to use the Individual component installer for this pack and install it AFTER the M4-78EP.
Individual component installer version is completely compatible with M4-78EP.


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Thanks to Fair Strides for creating and updating the TSL Patcher version of the installer.

Special thanks to Zbyl2, DarthStoney, VarsityPuppet, Hassat Hunter, and everybody else who was involved with TSLCRM during its long years of making, for all that they have given us...

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THIS MODIFICATION IS PROVIDED AS-IS AND IS NOT SUPPORTED BY BIOWARE/OBSIDIAN ENTERTAINMENT OR LUCASARTS OR ANY LICENSERS/SPONSORS OF THE MENTIONED COMPANIES. USE OF THIS FILE IS AT YOUR OWN RISK AND THE ABOVE MENTIONED COMPANIES OR THE AUTHOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR COMPUTER FOR THE USAGE OF THIS FILE.


What's New in Version 1.2.3   See changelog

Released

  • Version 1.1 :
  • 1) Updated for 1.8.3 version of TSLRCM files - most important removed the "Nihilus always drains" optional component since the issue is addressed in TSLRCM 1.8.3
  • 2) Compatibility patch for M4-78EP updated to M4-78EP 1.1 version of journal
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  • Version 1.2 :
  • Added Component 5 - Kreia - Atris dialog modification
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  • Version 1.2.1 :
  • 1)Updated for TSLRCM 1.8.4
  • 2) Compatibility patch for M4-78EP updated to M4-78EP 1.2 version of journal
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  • Version 1.2.2:
  • 1) Updated files for 1.8.5 version of TSLRCM
  • 2) New modular TSL Patcher installer made by Fair Strides which provides improved compatibility with number of other mods.
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  • Version 1.2.3:
  • 1) Fixed issues with Jorran in the Restored Enclave Sublevel caused by an erroneous inventory setup.



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Theda_Ktor

· Edited by Theda_Ktor

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Good work, I would just like to point out one thing:

"It's about the lines that reference that Kreia was there during Exiles trial, and more important that she was the one who asked for her/him to be exiled. Which doesn't fit at all, because she was presumed dead since Mandalorian Wars by the Jedi Order at that time, and becouse of that she couldn't have asked that of the Jedi Council when (as we see in dialogue between them near the end) they weren't even aware that she survived! This seems to be a remnant of some old plot version that was abandoned during the production."

There are several scenes in the game, and I believe dialogue as well, starting the first time you visit the Polar Academy, where it is implied or stated that Kreia could 'erase' herself from peoples' perceptions if she didn't want them to know she was there, with some people not noticing her, or expressing surprise when she showed up, despite her being next to you the whole time. It's also heavily implied during the cut scene when she is spying on Disciple, and I believe outright stated when she confronts the Jedi Masters on Dantooine - all of whom are shocked to see her, even though she was with you for at least some of your meetings. 

Given that, it's perfectly plausible that she quietly manipulated the council way back when, without them knowing, and it would fit her character.

In any case it's a minor note and since you can install individual components, doesn't affect the quality of the mod. 5 stars.

 

Response from the author:

A tiny response, almost a year late. :)

It is clear that Kreia can become  unnoticeable  to others and therefore she could be present during Exile's trial as an observer, but in those dialogue line it is implied that she actively advocated for the Exile to be removed from the Jedi order which can not be done by someone who is invisible and unnoticeable  to the whole Council  at that point and therefore can not interact and influence them in any meaningful way.

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