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#1 superSzym

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:37 PM

1) During the game, when did the problem begin to occur?
After the character creation

2) Did you install the latest version of the mod?
N/A

3) What version of the game do you have? (Steam, GOG, 4CD, KotOR Collection?) What region is the game designed for if it's the 4 CD version? 
4CD version, UK region.

4) Did you update your game as required by your game's region? (4-CD version ONLY)
Yes, both UK 1.0a and 1.0b were installed (in order).

5) Did you use the TSLPatcher, if provided? 
N/A

6) Were there any errors in the TSLPatcher installation? 
N/A

7) What other mods have you installed? Please give an accurate list and provide links to each of these mods - even if they are found on this site. (We don't actually know them all!.) 
No mods at all

8) Can you be more specific about the error? At what point did it happen?
The error happens after I create a character. If I don't use Windows XP SP2 Compatibility Mode and "Run As Administrator" in properties, everything is fine until I get to choose whether I want to play or skip the prologue, then I cannot even look at the options because of the game crashing to desktop. With Windows XP SP2 Compatibility Mode and "Run as Administrator", the game crashes before first movies, during the loading of 001EBO.

I followed everything in Sith Holocron's Guide until operations with swkotor2.ini. I cannot save the modified file, it says "Access Denial" when I try to. I also didn't do the things labeled with Windows Vista Only.


9) Have you tried re-downloading the mod? 
N/A

10) Have you tried using a different save game?
Fresh install, no savegames to try.

11) Have you tried starting a new game? 
Yes, a couple of times.

12) What Operating System do you use? (List Virtual Machines as well if you are using them.) 
Windows 7 SP1 Professional.

13) What language is your game set for? 
English (United Kingdom)
 
I would also like to inform that this is not the first time when installing the game results in an ultimate failure. On the same computer, everything was fine until I moved it to another room a couple of months ago and replaced a HDD Disc with an SSD one. I didn't need to perform any additional actions to install KOTOR 2, then.  I also tried installing TSLRCM with hope of it fixing the crash in prologue, but it didn't work either.



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 08:07 PM

Okay, so I found some cracks (physical ones) on CD number 2. To find whether they are the cause of issue or rather there's something in the system, I'll try installing KotOR 1. If my CD is indeed the issue, I'll try getting KotOR 2 on Steam - hopefully my computer is good enough to run Steam TSL even with this having abstractly high requirements update.

I've also got one question: does using manually installed TSLRCM or content mods that alter the original storyline break Steam Achievements? And are operations on modules supported?

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 08:27 PM

Okay, so I found some cracks (physical ones) on CD number 2. To find whether they are the cause of issue or rather there's something in the system, I'll try installing KotOR 1. If my CD is indeed the issue, I'll try getting KotOR 2 on Steam - hopefully my computer is good enough to run Steam TSL even with this having abstractly high requirements update.

I've also got one question: does using manually installed TSLRCM or content mods that alter the original storyline break Steam Achievements? And are operations on modules supported?

If you are planning on using mods other than TSLRCM and M478 from the steam workshop with K2, I recommend using the legacypc version of K2... You do not get the achievements (Or any of Aspyrs updates) but the game is much more stable regarding mods (and alot less stressful to install them in the right place)


"No one is immune from failure. All have tasted the bitterness of defeat and disappointment. A warrior must not dwell on that failure, but must learn from it and continue on. But not all learn from their errors. That is something those who seek to dominate others know very well, and know how to exploit. If an opponent has failed once at a logic problem, his enemy will first try the same type of problem, hoping the failure will be repeated. What the manipulator sometimes forgets, and what a warrior must always remember, is that no two sets of circumstances are alike. One challenge is not like another. The would-be victim may have learned from the earlier mistake. crossing of life paths". - Thrawn

 

"All people have regrets. Warriors are no exceptions. One would hope it was possible to distinguish between events caused by one’s carelessness or lack of ability and those caused by circumstances or forces beyond one’s control. But in practice, there is no difference. All forms of regret sear equally deeply into the mind and soul. All forms leave scars of equal bitterness. And always, beneath the scar, lurks the thought and fear that there was something else that could have been done. Some action, or inaction, that would have changed things for the better. Such questions can sometimes be learned from. All too often, they merely add to the scar tissue. A warrior must learn to set those regrets aside as best he can. away". - Thrawn


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:48 PM

If you are planning on using mods other than TSLRCM and M478 from the steam workshop with K2, I recommend using the legacypc version of K2... You do not get the achievements (Or any of Aspyrs updates) but the game is much more stable regarding mods (and alot less stressful to install them in the right place)


I think I'm not going to use any of Steam Workshop mods, including TSLRCM and M4-78EP. I think I feel safer with traditional semi-manual ways of installing mods, does this still apply?

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:09 PM

I think I'm not going to use any of Steam Workshop mods, including TSLRCM and M4-78EP. I think I feel safer with traditional semi-manual ways of installing mods, does this still apply?

Then I'd use Legacy PC which is pretty much K2 without the ASPYR patches. You just download the game than go to the properties and under betas, select Legacy PC

"No one is immune from failure. All have tasted the bitterness of defeat and disappointment. A warrior must not dwell on that failure, but must learn from it and continue on. But not all learn from their errors. That is something those who seek to dominate others know very well, and know how to exploit. If an opponent has failed once at a logic problem, his enemy will first try the same type of problem, hoping the failure will be repeated. What the manipulator sometimes forgets, and what a warrior must always remember, is that no two sets of circumstances are alike. One challenge is not like another. The would-be victim may have learned from the earlier mistake. crossing of life paths". - Thrawn

 

"All people have regrets. Warriors are no exceptions. One would hope it was possible to distinguish between events caused by one’s carelessness or lack of ability and those caused by circumstances or forces beyond one’s control. But in practice, there is no difference. All forms of regret sear equally deeply into the mind and soul. All forms leave scars of equal bitterness. And always, beneath the scar, lurks the thought and fear that there was something else that could have been done. Some action, or inaction, that would have changed things for the better. Such questions can sometimes be learned from. All too often, they merely add to the scar tissue. A warrior must learn to set those regrets aside as best he can. away". - Thrawn


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:34 PM

Well, I just checked KotOR offers on Steam and GoG and it seems like, since GoG supports my currency (PLN - Polish Zloty), GoG version would be minimally cheaper. Could someone recommend me which one is better? From what I remember, though I'm not 100% sure, is that GoG is just a classic old KotOR with an Aspyr update, which could be quite useful as my monitor is 1440x900 and I use Windows 7, with old good launcher and everything else, which, including saving 2 PLN (currently around 0.47€) would be more fitting my tastes and needs.

Also, there are even cheaper KotOR Collection DVDs in Polish shops, with both English versions and with Polish KotOR 1 and English TSL, and English K1 could be useful for modding to me, but I don't know if with newer operation systems would be guaranteed.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:56 PM

Only the Steam version has the Aspyr patch even though they promised to bring it to gog as well. This has not happened yet.

 

In Steam you can get both the patched and the unpatched version by right-clicking the game in your library, selecting Properties and then the "legacypc" beta. This is the same version that's available on gog and AFAIK also the same version available in the KotOR Collection.

 

There are arguments for and against the Aspyr patch. (I personally don't use it but I can see the benefits others might get from it.)

 

So if you want that patch you have to get the Steam version or pray that some day gog gets the same patch. If you don't, then I'd definetly recommend gog since it's DRM free and as you said yourself, it's cheaper as well.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:55 PM

Only the Steam version has the Aspyr patch even though they promised to bring it to gog as well. This has not happened yet.

 

In Steam you can get both the patched and the unpatched version by right-clicking the game in your library, selecting Properties and then the "legacypc" beta. This is the same version that's available on gog and AFAIK also the same version available in the KotOR Collection.

 

There are arguments for and against the Aspyr patch. (I personally don't use it but I can see the benefits others might get from it.)

 

So if you want that patch you have to get the Steam version or pray that some day gog gets the same patch. If you don't, then I'd definetly recommend gog since it's DRM free and as you said yourself, it's cheaper as well.

Hmmm.... I think I'll choose GoG version. There are already a couple of Widescreen fixes for 4CD, GoG and KotOR collection versions, I don't necessarily need an Aspyr one. Not having an English KotOR 1 motivates me to translate mods, improving my skills in both languages. I'll try my 4CD KotOR before choosing, because if it happened that K1 isn't working, too, I think I'll need an English KotOR quite badly.






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