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#21 Malkior

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:39 AM

EA's especially guilty of that, particularly since they've been doing the "Release the same game every year with small changes" part for a looong time.

I'm not going to get my hopes up or anything, but If nothing else, a KOTOR 3 would be a chance to sweep TOR into the trash can where it belongs.

I play light side. I like helping people, making things better. One of my favorite sidequests was the Promised Land storyline, helping people who'd been thrown away by society to fend for themselves in a monster-infested wasteland escape their fate and move to a better place. The icing on the cake was the implication that while the arrogant, callous nobles of Taris were blown away by the Sith bombardment, the poorest of the poor whom they had cast away were off to live in safety and happiness in a paradisical bunker.

Then TOR came along and ruined that for no good reason, earning my undying hatred.

That is oddly one part of TOR I actually admire. We thought that Taris was turned to dust, but instead it managed to become a sort of Lost Land full of life and vegetation. I understand you wanted the outcasts to survive and thrive in some underground paradise, but life is harsh, and it very clearly stated that most of them died from the journey to the Promised Land; let alone whether they actually found it. Some of TOR's story, it turns out, are rather well-written, but that's kind of a product of some very smart writers working on it.

All of this very very stupid "Canon" regarding Revan and Darth Verybadperson (Don't care about his real name, his very existence is outright contrived in the worst way), hopefully, we can all agree was the result of some cretin in a boardroom who thought they could milk the forced drama and unnecessary escalation of their made-up character from fans of the original series. However, I would never call the work of so many people who made something rather decent in some memories "trash", and I might go so far as to say Battlefront 3.0 wasn't " the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, ever".

That rant aside, though, I can't see where this is going now that their magnum opus of cheap DLC sold for full price (IE Battlefront) didn't pan out. Maybe they'll hire an intelligent project manager with actual plans to give the fans of Lucasarts what they actually would like to see. If that were to happen, we might actually get something like Days Of Future Past as far as wiping the stain of that affront to writing known as the Revan book (I don't care if Kapryshn is a great writer or not, that book was abusive to everything he started in Kotor) from our collective memory, and continuing the story of the Real Revan as he or she plumbs the depths of the unkown to save the Galaxy.

However, every forgettable online-only FPS is getting a sequel, somehow, so they'll probably just focus on EA Battlefront 2....
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#22 N-DReW25

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 12:14 PM

Well TOR is undoubtedly a Kotor 3 since it does answer questions (Most of them) about what happened after TSL but I would honestly like a fresh reboot of the Kotor, TSL and TOR universe in a Movie series similar to Rogue One (That didn't need to exist but it does) or as a Cartoon series like clone wars and rebels or as another video game but with the graphic quality of Battlefront 3 WITH using the canon stuff as the canon.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 02:03 PM

A similar sentiment that I expressed in another thread:


We are KOTOR 3...

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#24 Mephiles550

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 08:43 PM

The rumored Kotor remake comes in again for round two.

 

 

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 08:49 PM

Big meh. We don't really need a remake, but maybe if they add some new stuff that'd be cool.

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 08:57 PM

So, I looked at the articles that were linked to the video, and they... look like garbage, Nothing towards Rooster Teeth or The Know, of course. I assume people keep thinking o Apeiron anytime a fan made KotOR remake is mentioned...


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:12 PM

There have always been rumors about a certain Star Wars game releasing bouncing around the community. Over the last few weeks we have seen some more of this speculation, but this time it comes from the developers. Liam Robertson, spoke on his podcast about several things including a new Bioware “MMO-style co-op game” that will feature a “Sci Fi” setting. He also mentioned something that got the rumor mill running at full speed again, when he mentioned that Bioware Austin may be working on the Kotor franchise once again.


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"What they're currently working on right now – and I have this on good authority – is a sort of remake/revival of Knights of the Old Republic. I don't know when this is set to come out, but it has been in development for a little while now."


Liam then mentions that it may not mean a game bearing the Knights of the Old Republic name, but instead something based on KOTOR's structure. This got many fans excited as they have long awaited more Kotor since the MMO is not to everyone’s taste.

There is a long running thread with discussions of K3 rumors so check it out here if that's your thing.

Now if you are familiar with Kotor 3 rumours then you probably expect what I am going write next. The rumours are just that- rumors. While there was confirmation that Bioware Austin did at some point prototype a Kotor Style game, the project was not greenlit. Liam Robertson also reached out to Kotaku to clarify some of what he said in his podcast.


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Going to hold my hands up here - I think I just misheard some of the Austin stuff when I was talking on Skype, so I may have misspoke there. There’s also the element that I had no notes in front of me and just sort of rambled on from memory. I did not expect these few select statements to blow up (oops). I’m used to having the opportunity to just release follow-up notices on the Patreon with any updates and corrections. My bad there. Let me clarify that I don’t think KOTOR’s a current project. From the same people I learned about Dylan from, I did hear that they prototyped a KOTOR revival at Austin a while back. I believe it may have evolved into something else since then or fizzled out since then. I’m still confident Austin is doing something Star Wars related though and I’m confident in that. I actually did know that they were contributing towards Dylan since I originally found out about it when I was researching Austin’s Shadow Realms, so if I said exclusively, then that was admittedly a mistake.”

Sorry to disappoint you, but this is about par for the course when it comes to Kotor 3 rumors.

While we are on the topic of disappointments, we also have Star Wars Battlefront news. A new trailer dropped for Dice’s latest attempt at reviving Battlefront. While it is too soon to say anything substantial about the game we do have a few facts. There will be a campaign where you take control of Imperial Loyalists after the destruction of the Death Star, something absent from the original installment. The is a discussion thread for the trailer here.

Finally we have a new trailer for the newest Star Wars movie. There is a thread to discuss that in more detail here. I try to keep myself fairly free of spoilers so I tend to avoid trailers. That being said this one seems to not give away the entire film.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:48 PM

All the KOTOR rumor mongering over the years has turned me off to the idea of a KOTOR 3 or a KOTOR remake.

But also, #MakeKotorCanonAgain

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:50 PM

All the KOTOR rumor mongering over the years has turned me off to the idea of a KOTOR 3 or a KOTOR remake.

But also, #MakeKotorCanonAgain

I agree (partially).

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:10 AM

The problem I see is that a KOTOR 3... well, it now has to follow on from and/or incorporate SWTOR's take on it all. And, put bluntly, I hate SWTOR's treatment of the KOTOR material.

 

And on a related note, I've been substantially less than a fan of Disney's reboot. So, sadly, I feel a KOTOR 3 is now at the point where... well, it's simply too late in my opinion. I doubt I'd like it and I even suspect it'd end up infuriating me. :(


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:00 AM

The problem I see is that a KOTOR 3... well, it now has to follow on from and/or incorporate SWTOR's take on it all. And, put bluntly, I hate SWTOR's treatment of the KOTOR material.

And on a related note, I've been substantially less than a fan of Disney's reboot. So, sadly, I feel a KOTOR 3 is now at the point where... well, it's simply too late in my opinion. I doubt I'd like it and I even suspect it'd end up infuriating me. :(

No it doesn't... TOR is not canon... just like K1 and K2... So they have the creative license to do whatever they want aslong as lucasfilms give them the green light... It would be more likely a K1 remake than a K3 IMO to make the story canon
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:04 AM

No it doesn't... TOR is not canon... just like K1 and K2... So they have the creative license to do whatever they want aslong as lucasfilms give them the green light... It would be more likely a K1 remake than a K3 IMO to make the story canon

Ugh. No. No more remakes. Please. If Disney wants to canonise KOTOR, it can canonise KOTOR. They don't even have the excuse of being worried about their new continuity since the KOTOR era is so far removed from anything in Disney's new verse.

 

Now, since SWTOR is... yaknow, still an ongoing thing, Disney is almost certainly going to want to capitalise on that by linking any new KOTOR to it... which sadly means it'd have to be chained to their absolute abomination of Revan, the Exile and related's treatment, unless they wanted to totally retool the entire setting. But I didn't exactly like any of Disney's other reboots of the various Star Wars eras, so that idea appeals to me possibly even less.

 

Basically, Disney's caused the situation where everything they touch in Star Wars fills me with ominous dread.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:56 AM

Ugh. No. No more remakes. Please. If Disney wants to canonise KOTOR, it can canonise KOTOR. They don't even have the excuse of being worried about their new continuity since the KOTOR era is so far removed from anything in Disney's new verse.

Now, since SWTOR is... yaknow, still an ongoing thing, Disney is almost certainly going to want to capitalise on that by linking any new KOTOR to it... which sadly means it'd have to be chained to their absolute abomination of Revan, the Exile and related's treatment, unless they wanted to totally retool the entire setting. But I didn't exactly like any of Disney's other reboots of the various Star Wars eras, so that idea appeals to me possibly even less.

Basically, Disney's caused the situation where everything they touch in Star Wars fills me with ominous dread.

Not really when much of the new canon is built upon the galaxies history which seems to be odly connected to the time Kotor was set in. Even sidious was looking for ancient sources of the dark side which sounded similar to the same energy that the star forge was built upon.

I personally feel as though outside of the two movies Disney have released and ea's bf, they have done a good job with sw
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:22 AM

Not really when much of the new canon is built upon the galaxies history which seems to be odly connected to the time Kotor was set in. Even sidious was looking for ancient sources of the dark side which sounded similar to the same energy that the star forge was built upon.

I personally feel as though outside of the two movies Disney have released and ea's bf, they have done a good job with sw


Not that I want to be purely cynical, but I think Disney is using this as a way to shoehorn in their new "sith" history for Snoke and all of the more contemporary lore by using the now vacant Old Republic Era. Plus, Kotor drew such a fan base that it would spell potentially more people exposed to their new lore, and more money from a new game trilogy people are already interested in.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:37 AM

Not that I want to be purely cynical, but I think Disney is using this as a way to shoehorn in their new "sith" history for Snoke and all of the more contemporary lore by using the now vacant Old Republic Era. Plus, Kotor drew such a fan base that it would spell potentially more people exposed to their new lore, and more money from a new game trilogy people are already interested in.

Well, that is certainly a real possibility that Snoke's past is connected to this era in the new canon as well as Luke's original Jedi temples (which probably dates a little earlier than this era though). I just feel as though there is too much nods to the old republic era for it not to be made canon or altered to be made canon.
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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:41 PM

Well, that is certainly a real possibility that Snoke's past is connected to this era in the new canon as well as Luke's original Jedi temples (which probably dates a little earlier than this era though). I just feel as though there is too much nods to the old republic era for it not to be made canon or altered to be made canon.

Well they definitely won't be like "Okay, Kotor is canon again even tho it goes against stuff we established through other media". It's probably gonna be like it was with Thrawn and i'm okay with that.

I miss the old Revan,

The amnesia Revan, switching them sides Revan

I hate the new Revan, the Legends Revan

SWTOR Revan, beefin with everyone Revan

I miss the cool Revan, "Heart of the Force" Revan

See I invented Revan, It wasn't any Revans

And now I look and look around and see Darth Maul is Revan

I used to love Revan, I used to love Revan

I even had that Red Mask, I thought I was Revan

What if Revan turned out to be Revan

And he relises he was Revan ? Man, that'd be so Revan

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 01:13 AM

I highly doubt we will get a sequel to Knights of the Old Republic as a standalone game. The Old Republic is really that sequel, for better or worse. With the canon reset however, I do think it is somewhat likely that we might get a KOTOR style RPG / Adventure game set in the pre-prequel era, back when the Jedi and Sith were fighting for supremacy. I would like to see the "Great Scourge of Malachor" played out. Not only is the idea based on Malachor V from KOTOR II but it reminds me of the Valley of the Jedi from Dark Forces II - Jedi Knight. Would make for an interesting climax to a game.



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Posted 07 May 2017 - 02:03 AM

I hope Atton Rand comes back. He rules!






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