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What was your favorite romance from the kotor games?

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This forum post is as the name says, you say your favorite romance from the kotor games, and give a somewhat detailed reason why it is your favorite. My personal favorite is handmaiden from kotor2, because honestly it is a subtle romance type thing where both of you know you love eachother and yet you haven't really directly said "I love you" you just know you love eachother and that is enough.

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How would I go about activating the Exile/Atton romance? I've seen it online but couldn't find a way to play it during my first Female/Lightside campaign.

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Is that real dialogue from the game? Never heard that before.

Yes it is but when you are fighting sion as atton (in TSLRCM) you have to lose in order for this dialogue to appear. And you said you knew the game inside and out :D

How would I go about activating the Exile/Atton romance? I've seen it online but couldn't find a way to play it during my first Female/Lightside campaign.

It is a subtle romance until the end of the game, but you must be very kind or very harsh in order for atton to like you, never ever in the middle. And don't have a strong relationship with Mical if you are trying the atton romance. Oh and what is your favorit romance?

Is that real dialogue from the game? Never heard that before.

what is your favorite romance? No passing to until you say so, this is a favorite romance forum post after all!

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My fave is Exile/Atton just for his pickups lines and wisecracks. A close second is Exile/Handmaiden, it's a very mature and thought out relationship.

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Carth and female Revan, even though it's non-canon. Revan's romance with Bastila is very obvious, their Force Bond has a strong romantic subtext, and their romance ties in with the story so well that it can be treated as its integral component. In-universe, they were destined to be together, plain and simple.

 

With Carth it isn't so. It's a story of a damaged man slowly finding a new hope, a new reason, and a new joy in the person of his companion, he begins to trust her long after he stopped trusting anyone... and then he gets smacked on the head almost as strongly as he was on Telos IV when he finds out her true identity. And call me a sucker for heartwarming moments but his conversation with final Revan when he finally accepts who she is is one of my favourite from the whole game. From what I've gathered, Carth is not a people's favourite, and I myself love HK-47's impressions of him, but as a fan of Carth I really appreciate the maturity, complexity, and tragicness of this relationship. It makes Bastila's romance plot look like Twilight story in comparison. (Not that Bastila's romance doesn't have any "in your face" moments, such as Bastila confessing that it was Revan's taint within the vision that pushed her to the Dark Side... or Bastila dying by Revan's hand.)

 

Oh, and the cut (and restored by K1R! Although glitched at the moment.) ending where Revan and Carth die together on the Star Forge? If that's not beautiful, then I don't know what is.

 

I also like to toy with the idea of a romance plot with Yuthura Ban as she's my favourite character and adding a layer of romance to her friendship with Revan would be beautiful in my eyes and I do believe it would be symbolic, beautiful, and that it would tie in nicely with the main plot. And while it wouldn't really be less clasically cheesy than the Bastila romance, oh well, they are still good if they are written well and Revan/Yuthura would be a nice gender flip of Revan/Bastila situation. Definitely happening if I ever write a fanfic.

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Carth and female Revan, even though it's non-canon. Revan's romance with Bastila is very obvious, their Force Bond has a strong romantic subtext, and their romance ties in with the story so well that it can be treated as its integral component. In-universe, they were destined to be together, plain and simple.

 

With Carth it isn't so. It's a story of a damaged man slowly finding a new hope, a new reason, and a new joy in the person of his companion, he begins to trust her long after he stopped trusting anyone... and then he gets smacked on the head almost as strongly as he was on Telos IV when he finds out her true identity. And call me a sucker for heartwarming moments but his conversation with final Revan when he finally accepts who she is is one of my favourite from the whole game. From what I've gathered, Carth is not a people's favourite, and I myself love HK-47's impressions of him, but as a fan of Carth I really appreciate the maturity, complexity, and tragicness of this relationship. It makes Bastila's romance plot look like Twilight story in comparison. (Not that Bastila's romance doesn't have any "in your face" moments, such as Bastila confessing that it was Revan's taint within the vision that pushed her to the Dark Side... or Bastila dying by Revan's hand.)

 

Oh, and the cut (and restored by K1R! Although glitched at the moment.) ending where Revan and Carth die together on the Star Forge? If that's not beautiful, then I don't know what is.

 

I also like to toy with the idea of a romance plot with Yuthura Ban as she's my favourite character and adding a layer of romance to her friendship with Revan would be beautiful in my eyes and I do believe it would be symbolic, beautiful, and that it would tie in nicely with the main plot. And while it wouldn't really be less clasically cheesy than the Bastila romance, oh well, they are still good if they are written well and Revan/Yuthura would be a nice gender flip of Revan/Bastila situation. Definitely happening if I ever write a fanfic.

If You think carth is damaged, talk to atton for a while. Haha he is in bad shape.

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My favorite was always Revan and Bastila, partly because it was the first one I did, partly because it's the most fun to play out. I think I also had the best connection to that one, as, for me, Bastila always goes from supremely annoying to being someone whom I actually kind of like.

 

But I'm also usually kind of stoic and generally unimpressed by romances in video games and movies...

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Been a while since I did a romance except for the Bastilla one so I guess I'll go with that one. I'll probably have to do a couple run throughs of TSL and K1 to make a firm decision though.

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Atton and the Jedi Exile. Mostly because the depth of character is staggering on Atton's part and more or less all the romance was in the subtext.

On the other hand I really didn't like the bastilla/revan romance. It was okay in the writing but they have minimal chemistry and a lot of the dialog choices felt like it was being forced on me.

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Atton and the Jedi Exile. Mostly because the depth of character is staggering on Atton's part and more or less all the romance was in the subtext.

On the other hand I really didn't like the bastilla/revan romance. It was okay in the writing but they have minimal chemistry and a lot of the dialog choices felt like it was being forced on me.

It's admittedly more fun to be a complete ass to her and continue to tease/mock about the romance

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Female exile and Darth Sion. :P

 

Mostly because it showed that the life of hate and pain wasn't the one Sion wanted, and (kind of like Nihilus with Visas) he had enough care left to love another person and (in a very small way) be redeemed by giving up the force for the Exile.

 

It's a very small romance plot, but I think it still counts.

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The Atton/Exile romance for a lot of the reasons already stated. I wouldn't call it subtle, but they never really confront each other about it, and the closest thing to a resolution is one of the TSLRCM endings - As much as Atton wants otherwise, he knows that in the end the end he wouldn't be good for her, but is content to stay around and try to help her. (That's what I took away from that scene anyway).

It probably helps that Atton is just about my favorite Star Wars character in general, and he's, at least in my opinion, a fairly deep (or at least interesting) character with an interesting view of things.

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It's admittedly more fun to be a complete ass to her and continue to tease/mock about the romance

Oh I just act really benevolent and nice and lightside and so on. Then I shoot her down in an 'I'm just nice like that normally' sorta way...

Is it bad that I get a massive catharsis when going "um, actually I don't like you like that."?

 

 

Female exile and Darth Sion. :P

 

Mostly because it showed that the life of hate and pain wasn't the one Sion wanted, and (kind of like Nihilus with Visas) he had enough care left to love another person and (in a very small way) be redeemed by giving up the force for the Exile.

 

It's a very small romance plot, but I think it still counts.

I honestly found Sion waaaaaaaaaay more creepy than romantic.

 

"You are beautiful to me. And that is why I hate you."

Just... nonononononononononononononononononono

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LSF Revan and Carth Onasi, and LSM Exile and Visas. I'm so anti canon on this I know, but for me, they are perfectly balanced and realistic.

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Kreia X Exile

 

But in terms of a romantic relationship;

Handmaiden X FemExile, UNF.

 

I like Visas romance too, and Atton- don't care for The Disciple or K1's romance tho.

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Without mods, I would vote for Female Revan and Juhani. Even though her romance has little content, Juhani deserves more love as the very first canon lesbian character in both Star Wars Legends and BioWare games, which is why I have spent so much time and effort to write a detailed Juhani romance guide. Also, since you need to be Light Side and be nice to Juhani to complete her romance, I love how Juhani and Revan's relationship are supportive of each other as Jedi who had experienced the Dark Side and are struggling to stay on the Light Side path. One of the only things I really dislike about TSL is Juhani's existence both as a character and a potential love interest for Female Revan being completely ignored.

 

 

With mods, I would add Female Exile and Visas. I love the parallels between Visas and the Exile (both have suffered a planet-wide destruction and their connection to the Force is damaged because of it), how they could understand each other's trauma because of it, and especially in a Light Side playthrough, both eventually come to terms with their trauma. I also love how passionate Visas is when she confess her love for the Exile after the Rebuilt Jedi Enclave sequence. It's worth noting that apart from the romance scene and the Handmaiden vs. Visas cutscenes, Visas' dialogue doesn't really change that much (if any) between male and female Exiles, as Visas is just as devoted to a female Exile, so IMHO it's a wasted potential that Visas isn't a romance option for a Female Exile in vanilla TSL.

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